Hack elogs

Sounds like a felony to me.

 

What I hate about elogs is this. Let's say a 60 years old rookie driver (just got a trucking job, after working 8-5 at a factory whole his life) delivers a load at 8am. Goes off duty and then dispatch gets him a load at 7pm, which has to be delivered at 4am.
Now this zombie, who will be super tired after 11pm is gonna be driving on public roads. Then again, random delivery and random sleeping time.

The thing I like about elogs, is that hopefully another zombies who run 800-1000 miles per day, will be taken out of the road.

 

Not gonna work under the mandate. Maybe you were using AOBRDs but the ELD mandate specifies all miles are logged. The speed sensor cannot be set at a threshold greater than 5mph but there is no parameter for milage. Its pulled off the ecm, all logged and rounded up to whole numbers.

Reading through the mandate and the FMCSAs responses, Schneider advocated for a 1.5 mile parameter for yard moves but they (FMCSA) didn't feel the argument had enough merit so there is currently no parameter for when miles start being logged. So good luck with that

 

Disconnect speed sensor and put farraday cage (tinfoil?) over gps unit? Your truck will move and burn fuel but will register no distance..? Go back to same spot you started and connect everything and nobody knows the wiser?

 

Milage is pulled from the ecm, not gps

 

Ecm only knows it is moving if the wheel is turning
Is the wheel is turning but the sensor is disconnected how does the ecm know the truck moved or at what speed or at what distance?

 

4.3. ELD Inputs
4.3.1. ELD Sensing
4.3.1.1. Engine Power Status
An ELD must be powered and become fully functional within 1 minute of the vehicle’s engine receiving power and must remain powered for as long as the vehicle’s engine stays powered.

4.3.1.2. Vehicle Motion Status
(a) An ELD must automatically determine whether a CMV is in motion or stopped by comparing the vehicle speed information with respect to a set speed threshold as follows:
(1) Once the vehicle speed exceeds the set speed threshold, it must be considered in motion.
(2) Once in motion, the vehicle must be
considered in motion until its speed falls to 0 miles per hour and stays at 0 miles per hour for 3 consecutive seconds. Then, the vehicle will be considered stopped.
(3) An ELD’s set speed threshold for
determination of the in-motion state for the purpose of this section must not be
configurable to greater than 5 miles per hour.
(b) If an ELD is required to have a link to
the vehicle’s engine ECM, vehicle speed
information must be acquired from the
engine ECM. Otherwise, vehicle speed
information must be acquired using an
independent source apart from the
positioning services described under section 4.3.1.6 of this appendix and must be accurate within ±3 miles per hour of the CMV’s true ground speed for purposes of determining the in-motion state for the CMV.

4.3.1.3. Vehicle Miles
(a) An ELD must monitor vehicle miles as accumulated by a CMV over the course of an ignition power on cycle (accumulated vehicle miles) and over the course of CMV’s operation (total vehicle miles). Vehicle miles
information must use or must be converted to units of whole miles.
(b) If the ELD is required to have a link to the vehicle’s engine ECM as specified in
section 4.2 of this appendix:
(1) The ELD must monitor the engine
ECM’s odometer message broadcast and use it to log total vehicle miles information; and
(2) The ELD must use the odometer
message to determine accumulated vehicle miles since engine’s last power on instance.
(c) If the ELD is not required to have a link to the vehicle’s engine ECM as specified in section 4.2 of this appendix, the accumulated vehicle miles indication must be obtained or
estimated from a source that is accurate to within ±10% of miles accumulated by the CMV over a 24-hour period as indicated on the vehicle’s odometer display.

 

This too shall pass (if it ever kicks like as you claim). There are certain realities that MUST be accounted for and this is one of them. I won't/can't tolerate any time a wheel makes a few revolutions, that a break is interrupted and I'm confident this shall not stand [for long if it ever does]

These bureaucrats are all gung-ho in the beginning, but in the end, cooler heads will prevail as enough cry foul. Don't let all this phyco-babble language bother you at this stage of the game.

I'll talk to my people next time I'm in the yard and ask them if the motion/log dynamics of our Omnitracs systems are going to change. But they'll lost a third of their drivers in two weeks if they do change to where breaks are now routinely interrupted, and become difficult to obtain ... and bottom line is they can not afford to lose that many drivers and/or miss that many planned load pickups.

 

N. Engine Miles
1. Comments to the 2014 SNPRM
The SNPRM proposed that engine
miles be retrieved from an ECM if the
CMV had an ECM. If a vehicle was older
than model year 2000, and did not have
an ECM, then the vehicle miles would
have to be derived. Zonar stated that there are multiple sources of engine miles. Because of widespread variability among CMVs with respect to what data can actually be readily extracted by ELD providers, Zonar believed FMCSA should consider a version of ELD that substitutes GPS-derived data (such as mileage) for data that cannot be readily obtained from a vehicle ECU or a vehicle data bus.
Modern GPS fleet tracking devices can
be wired securely and permanently into
a vehicle, can be programmed to
uniquely identify individual vehicles,
and can provide very accurate mileage
data and truck run time data to validate
driver records.
2. FMCSA Response
Because today’s rule is only
mandatory for motor carriers operating
CMVs that are model year 2000 or
newer, all engine miles must be derived
from the ECM or ECM connection.
Synchronization with a satellite for the
receipt of GPS-derived data is not the
same as being integrally synchronized
with the engine of the CMV, as required
in today’s rule. Engine synchronization
for purposes of ELD compliance means
the monitoring of the vehicle’s engine
operation to automatically capture data,
including: the engine’s power status,
vehicle’s motion status, miles driven
value, and engine hours value.

 

That's going to be one of the biggest problems, not just with new drivers though.

There's a lot of drivers out here already that can't say no to the ridiculous cycling of there sleep patern and unfortunately it one of the largest contributers to fatigued driving.