GVW / GVWR Ratings on trucks? Help me understand this.

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  1. TripleNickle

    TripleNickle Bobtail Member

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    Noob question I suppose, but I'm shopping for a truck for my new business and I keep coming across weird variations on the GVWR on the tractors. Take these three for example:

    Ryder Used Tractor for Sale – Freightliner, M2 112

    Ryder Used Tractor for Sale – Freightliner, M2 112

    Ryder Used Tractor for Sale – Freightliner, M2 112

    All the same truck, Freightliner M2 112, but one is 50k, one is 65k, and one is 80k GVW.

    I understand it's a single axle and so you could only pull 80k weight on doubles, which is what I'm going to be doing, but is this GVW just something that's messed up on listings commonly? This isn't the first time I've come across this and it confuses me...
     
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  3. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

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    Could be as simple as it's sold that way to reduce title fees and the like.
     
  4. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    That doesn't sound right. I think they made a mistake somewhere.

    I never heard of a single axle able to pull 80,000 pounds. I thought 80,000 pounds is only for a twin-screw tractor and a tandem trailer.

    When I pulled doubles with a single axle I believe it was 65,000 GVW.
     
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  5. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    The most I could see being pulled is 20 on the rears provided they're built for that and 13 on the steers.

    33 provided it's built for that. For the truck only. Right or wrong?

    Add the trailer and most of the weight would have to be on the back provided it's more then 1 axle.
     
  6. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    If a single screw/dead axle "tandem" can gross 80k, why couldn't a single screw pulling doubles?

    As for the OP's question, I didn't click all of the links, but I'd imagine it has to do with the truck specs. Heavier built axles can handle pulling heavier loads. More power under the hood will pull heavier loads. Different transmissions will make a difference, too. Even axle gearing will make a difference, as will the type and size of the brakes. Commercial trucks aren't like pickups, where pretty much every single one is nearly identically spec'd, with limited options. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of potential variations to choose from within any given make/model that will determine what sort of GVWR it will be assigned.
     
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  7. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I need to update my response.

    GVW is probably 32,000 to 35,000 something like that.

    GCWR for a single axle I think is 65,000.
     
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  8. Cat sdp

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    @MACK E-6 .....

    single screw tractor with double pups and single axle dolly....5 axle total. Is that combination good for 80,000 lbs.
     
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  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Think Cali. I have no idea WHY. But they only pull single axle double bellies.

    Is there a weight advantage somehow to actually having a tandem truck and one belly with tandems?
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Sure is if it’s tagged for 80K.

    Hell, they pull triples with single screws.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

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    I am very cautious with single screw trucks. They don't do well at the weights I use to run at.

    I mentally evaluated all of my trucks in my life and that white 58-59 was the only single screw I ever drove. (International 10 ton single dump with axle splitter to go with the high direct and low 13 is the exception.) So.. with that in mind I'll exit stage right.
     
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