Glider Kit Or Is It

Not yet, assuming im audited this year, I have the original build sheet which will suffice during an audit, which is only to be required to be kept at office/homebase, not with me in the truck. If I was to be DOT inspected on the side of the road, and for whatever reason DOT couldn't determine if I was ELD exempt, they would refer the matter to FMCSA for further investigation.

 

Would you be put oos ? Or they let you go with inspection report about the possibility of a log violation

 

The regulation doesn't say, it just says referred to another agency for further investigation. But, if they are gonna dig deep enough on the side of the road to put me OOS, then I have enough evidence to prove that I am E-log exempt.

 

I've had DOT officers just check the ID tag on the valve cover and that was enough for them, it was when I got my first audit that they wanted to see paperwork from the dealer that completed the truck.

 

Yes , I forgot about the tag on valve cover. I can’t remember if I still have it on there.

 

I’ve been contemplating an ELD. I don’t run outlaw now, I done 3-5 legal loads last year. Ran a total of about 60k miles. I’m oversized 99% of the time so that also exempts me from the 30 minute rule, I don’t care for the extra costs though.

 

It is illegal because any truck that is manufactured in whatever year now with these newer trucks with emissions, legally you need to have that year engine or newer in the truck.

Glider trucks are different situation. True glider trucks are trucks that are incomplete from the factory. Anything that is complete from the factory is not a glider and must have the correct year engine.

Since the trucks are incomplete from the factory they have a different type of a title. For example, in Pennsylvania if you buy a glider truck it will have a reconstructed title. I would imagine other states have something similar because it is considered a reconstructed vehicle not a factory vehicle and as such it will have a different Vin and a special vin that designates it as such.

Ironically if you had let's say two 2015 trucks and you took those trucks and you swapped the cabs, and you legally went through the procedure for whatever your state is, like in Pennsylvania you have to document it you have to photograph it and you have to send all of the information in, and they will send you a reconstructed title for each.

In that case, because it is a reconstructed title, you can put whatever engine that you want in that truck. But a factory truck? No. Not legal.

 

I think the original intent of the glider was for cases where the chassis wears out before the powertrain or if a newer truck was wrecked but still had good running gear. Cheaper to buy a glider (which normally came with no engine, transmission or rear ends/suspension) and then swap over the running gear.

Then someone found a loophole and now people exploited it to dodge emissions and elogs.

 

I don't think it matters, as long as truck move goods and ppl are happy doing it.

 

Ask Navistar about that-they got into some serious trouble with the EPA on that issue when they put older engines into brand new trucks on the assembly line!
Navistar will destroy old engines, pay $52M to settle federal complaint