Getting training as diesel tech

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by cabwrecker, Apr 9, 2014.

  1. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    Very seriously considering taking a year off of full time before I go OTR again, to get trained up on diesel mechanic/repair skills.

    Looking at a few schools in my state I've found a few I'd like to attend.

    Most are operating off of the Pell grant and Stafford loans- which means like any higher education/vocational school, they're gonna bend me over for as much as they can, this is not news and unsurprising considering I'm still in college (became a driver to pay college tuition, found out I love driving and said screw it to digital sciences and switched to business degree. 15k/debt so far, about 2 years and another 10k in student loans left on that particular gem.)

    Narrowed it down to three schools, whom have three things in common:

    • ASE certified
    • Atleast if not over 1,500 hands on / contact training
    • 50-55 week total course
    • All programs 9-5. Mon-Fri.
    • All courses and programs considered higher education by dept. of education, therefore eligible for grants/loans
    • All programs heavily focus on: Driveline repair and rebuild, top/bottom inframe work, hydraulics, wiring harness, ECM repair/troubleshooting, wiring and circuit building, emissions systems (you get the picture, it's the whole shabang.)
    • All programs offer on campus housing at about 10% of total tuition costs, so if it's $8,000 total for the training, $800 for what is surely a small prison cell of a "room." Board (food) is 5% of total tuition.


    The reason I'm interested in this, is simple.
    I want to go O/O. Not now, not even in the near future. Sometime, though. Be it local or OTR. My insurance costs would be insane at the moment, trying to find realistic financing would be unbelievably hard to find and then it really just comes down to the bottom line: I am not yet experienced enough to touch O/O.

    That doesn't mean I can't think about it.

    Can't help but feel this would be a good investment for the future and a realistic fall back as a profession should something happen to me, medically or I, God forbid, pointed out somehow.
    Would be a great way to cut down on labor costs and turn some red ink black at the end of the year.


    Thinking weekend job while I'm in the school to keep some change in my pocket, and current experience valid. All the schools in question have placement departments that sound fairly confident they could find me a temp position in the areas of their respective locations.


    I'd like some feed back, decent idea? Or don't bother.
    Probably gonna bother eitherway, because again, I'd like the fallback of having the skills for another job should something happen here.
     
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  3. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Just curious, but what is the desire to be an o/o so bad?
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    There is a driver who hangs out on another bunch of threads that drove for swift and went the mechanic route. You could contact her. 1nonly.
     
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  5. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    I enjoy driving, love the road. Love going new and old places, just so long as it ain't home, too often.

    Would prefer to call my own shots, and not have to be ordered around by a desk jocky in an office who has never been a driver, and not have an option outside of telling him where he can stick that.

    Not too keen, more or less on operating my own authority from what I've seen going on with the lot who are constantly complaining about running their own authority...but, maybe?
    Too far in the future to make any of those calls now, putting the cart way way way in front of the horse even discussing that.


    Just to reiterate, I want to drive for a good long while, and not do it as a company driver or L/O.


    Well, mainly what I'm asking is a yes/no: Do you think having this training would help me as an owner operator?



    I'll get a hold of her, but I'd like other opinions as well.


    Where you at Ritcher, c`mon you mean #######, lets hear it.
     
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  6. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    Duplicate post. (not really, just condensing.)
     
  7. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    It cannot hurt.

    However, the newer motors are an electrical nightmare and may be some problems for the owner without "special" equipment.

    I mentioned her because it might give you an insight to the training involved.
     
  8. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    I can appreciate that. I feel like I am at where you want to be. I run my own authority, also got tired of being ordered around, told where and what and always wondering which truck stop I will be wasting my weekends at. It can be done, don't let anyone tell you otherwise. I also enjoy driving, but am getting to a point where I can see having other drivers or owner operators do the driving while I can work the office. I love how the industry works, but the regulation is wearing me very thin ... Also is very good money to be made once you get good at tic-tac-toe'ing the good paying loads together ... Trucking is good for me, once again ... for now, at least ...

    As an aside, I have only the simplest mechanical knowledge of my truck. I know how the systems work, in my head, but actually working on it, aside from greasing it and fixing lights and tire pressures, I get my mechanic to do it.
     
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  9. cabwrecker

    cabwrecker The clutch wrecker

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    And just out of curiosity, how much money are you throwing at repairs per year? I'm fine with very wide ball-parking estimates here.

    I believe I saw Red foreman make a comment, the other day about "Delusions of grandeur" in regards to someone asking about starting a small fleet with a few thousand dollars. In that context, Red was right. This guy was wildly delusional. I'm a little less, but I like to daydream when I'm bumped against a dock too...Owning even a small fleet...Oh how lovely it sounds, back breaking labor, hair pulling annoyance and a high probability of going broke. Seriously, I ask you, what more could a man want? :biggrin_25523:
     
  10. gokiddogo

    gokiddogo Road Train Member

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    Hah.

    Well the truck I have now is an old one but is as reliable as the day is long. I paid 18k for it in April 2013, probably spent another 20k in fixing it. However - I am not in any mindset to have a new truck with emissions issues, low mpg, and plenty of shop time AGAIN. The truck as it sits now, NEEDS no more repairs. However, I do plan to put money into fuel mpg gains, such as MB wheel bearings, tranny, rear ends. That won't be cheap, isn't completely necessary, but I have tried MB before and it does work. The oil samples continuously come back clean. By the end of 2014, I will have rebuilt pretty well the entire truck, and I am figuring I have another 300,000 miles or so (2-3 years) before it needs a new engine. At which point I plan to put another 12.7 no-egr detroit into it, and drive it again for another 10 years. The frame is in excellent shape, what I am doing is basicly making my own glider truck, one piece at a time ... Anything to avoid that emissions nightmares that would likely have bankrupted me. Doing awesome now.
     
  11. Richter

    Richter Road Train Member

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    Here what...im not a mechanic, how do i have any relevant info for this post? I do think it helps to learn some mechanical info about your truck to fix the simple stuff, but i never went to truck mechanic school.
     
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