fuel anti gel.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by slatherd, Dec 15, 2008.

  1. slatherd

    slatherd Light Load Member

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    I got some questions about anti gel.

    whats the best times to use it? what are the temp ranges and amount of fuel. full tank? half?

    how much do you use per 125 gal tank?

    How often should I use it?

    How much should I carry?
     
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  3. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    It depends on the product, read the directions. It also depends on the engine, and if you are needing to shut it off, in really cold weather. hi bypass engines don't need it unless they are shut off, shutting down makes other things fail to work, too.

    I don't worry about it until the temps get into the teens above zero, if it was shut off, teens below if it isn't. It depends on the pour point and cloud point of the fuel you are using. I just haven't h ad much trouble with trucks, farm tractors were a bit different, they didn't by-pass much fuel and the lines were very exposed; any cold airflow will stop them in a hurry because the fuel flow is so much less.


    One more thing, if you can fill the tanks before shutting it down, there is less chance of water being drawn from the atmosphere as the fuel in the tanks cools, in theory, you shouldn't need anti gel if you are using good fuel.

    If you are a company driver, follow the directions given you on use of additives.
     
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    formertaxidriver Heavy Load Member

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    When I started my driving career in MT, company had us using FPPF. Small bottle, doesn't take up much room. Since I now have a Volvo engine, I use PowerService. I add every time I fuel. Why play around and guess when the temp is going to drop? But then I don't go much below I-40. I was also told, can't vouch for truth, that the further you go north, the greater the diesel 1 blend is. In MT you can buy pure diesel 1, for a price. Correct me if I'm wrong, diesel 1 is kerosene and has a much lower cloud point. So, the way the guy put it, fuel as you go north and it will be better for the climate. I have done this and never had a problem. I also carry extra fuel filters in case that is the gel point. I also have a bottle of Diesel 911 for those just in case times.
    I leave my truck idling below +20 degrees F.
     
  5. Waterloo

    Waterloo Medium Load Member

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    This new ULSD starts to gell at higher temps than the old stuff. I read that in one of my trucker rags that gets sent to the house. And from personal experience, I never had problems with fuel gelling until my first winter with ULSD. I now double up on the anti-gell, because that one bottle did not do the trick. It sucks getting towed out of my driveway to go to a warm shop to thaw the truck out.

    Mike
     
  6. 25(2)+2

    25(2)+2 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    No it's not true, at least not in the midwest. Pilot, TA, Flying J, and the other majors might, probably won't, have No1 available in blends, most outlets that are smaller will have it. It's on the pump what you are pumping. No1 costs more and has less BTUs, it also isn't considered as oily, in theory causing more wear.

    Some places put anti-gel into No2 and call it winter or arctic blend;again, none of the majors do this that I have seen. Iowa , Wisconsin , and Minnesota have a chain Kwik Star in Iowa, they would have those types of fuel. It's Kwik Trip in the other states. There are other truck stops and coops that do this around as well. The truck stops will take your fuel cards with the usual exceptions, the coops don't.

    I have heard that Minnesota dealers put in additive in the winter, but I get no confirmation of that.
     
    Last edited: Dec 16, 2008
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