Fuel Advance & Quick Pay

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by 6wheeler, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    I just thought I would sum up something for all of you brokers out there to kind of understand.

    Bank Account $2000.

    Monday Move load: Point A to point B. $500 fuel cost, check in the mail for shipment delivered received maybe 7 days later.

    Bank Account $1500.

    Tuesday Move load: Point B to point C.$500 fuel cost, check in the mail for shipment delivered received maybe 7 days later.

    Bank Account $1000.

    Wednesday Move load: Point C to point D. $500 fuel cost, check in the mail for shipment delivered received maybe 7 days later.

    Bank Account $500.

    Thursday Move load: Point D to point E. $500 fuel cost. Your flat broke, you hope your last shipment is going home so you can sit around for the next 5 days or so waiting on payments to come in through the postal mail.

    No fuel advance, and bills are still coming in and quick pay is NOT paying every Friday or every so many days after its delivered.
    Quick pay is when your paid the day its delivered!
     
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  3. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    Stop loading without a 50% advance. If the broker won't do it then load elsewhere. Your exposure to loss is way out there operating on trust. This is why he gets his cut, to insulate you from late / no pays. It's your money and you need it now.

    Oh yeah, broker don't care if you eat or not, only if he eats and how well.

    JMO
     
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  4. Casual Trucker

    Casual Trucker Medium Load Member

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    U Gota Be Kidding Me :biggrin_25521:

    You will stand a better chance of complaining to Lucifer.Most brokers don't Care about how much you got left in your wallet.They don't get paid by you.The shippers own their sole's
     
  5. MSS

    MSS Light Load Member

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    All the brokers i pulled for wont advance until loaded
     
  6. dhooks

    dhooks Light Load Member

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    Man you might want to rethink things if your running that slim a margin
     
  7. Ezrider_48501

    Ezrider_48501 Road Train Member

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    you just simply can't operate on that slim of margins what if you had a break down while under load. you need to concentrate heavily on getting your operating capital up. the quickest paying stuff i do is normally around 3 weeks with average being 30-45 a few things have pushed 60 days to get paid. if i asked for a fuel advance they would probably laugh in my face. i start getting nervous if operating capital drops below 8k if below 10k no deposits get made into my personal checking till operating capital is back up. you should try to maintain some cushion in your personal checking as well incase you have to go a little while without paying yourself.

    its very important to keep your personal finances separate from your trucking finances. if you have 500 in your personal checking and 8k in your business checking you better start eating pb&j instead of steak dinners cause that 8k in your trucking account isn't yours its yours its your company's. and need to stay there to earn you money. if your trucking company runs out of money you have no way to make yourself any money.


    i recently did 2800 dollars in parts into my truck only to have the following day my clutch go out. and got shot with a nearly a 4k repair bill in the shop. if i didn't maintain some cushion in there i would have been hosed.
     
  8. 6wheeler

    6wheeler Road Train Member

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    Well in other words to better explain this is, You can't keep pushing out money everyday, waiting for payments to catch up 7 to 30 days later. Cashflow is out of balance!
     
  9. snowwy

    snowwy Road Train Member

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    a few years ago. there were posters on here working for landstar. doing just what your doing. taking half the load in advance and putting just enough fuel in the truck to make delivery. sometimes they didn't make it due to construction detours.

    the rest of the load money went home to momma and constantly fixing there trucks.

    they didn't last long in the business.
     
  10. Saddletramp1200

    Saddletramp1200 Road Train Member

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    How to go broke. I watch, Have this habit though, Like to tell drivers how to avoid it. No one listens to me, so I just watch.
     
  11. Old Man

    Old Man Road Train Member

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    You are a motor carrier, same as JB, Swift, LS, etc. they don't get a advance from their customers and some big ones don't pay for 90 days.
     
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