Freight and Freight Lanes

Discussion in 'Landstar' started by Desert_Skies, Nov 24, 2012.

  1. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Since I have had some time to kill before I go to orientation I have been studying freight lanes and rates. I know there is a pretty big learning curve associated with developing my own lanes of travel so Im trying to get a little ahead of the game. I have been using the board at landstarbroker.com,I know this only shows some of the freight and that BCO's have more to choose from.

    My first criteria is to have no criteria meaning Im willing to go where the freight goes (within reason). I am well aware that there are huge holes out there where freight is slow and that a wise operator will take that into account when planning for thier load back home. I am willing to take as much time as it takes to learn my lanes and then always stay educated on how freight is moving where I choose to run.

    Living in So Cal means access to alot of freight which should make planning my out bound trip somewhat simple. My first lanes of choice are I-40 and I-10,yes I want to run in the nicer weather. After 20 winters in the Pacific Northwest I have had more than my fill of snow,ice,rain and cold. I realize that rates might be better running the northern lanes and if it meant starving or losing my truck of course I would go. No snow bunnies on my truck.

    My plan is to run out from So Cal to the SE then back to So Cal followed by outbound to TX/OK/AR and back to So Cal followed by a few days off. Another option that would work good for me is turning PHX on a regular basis. Of course Im open to any suggestions you BCO's that run those lanes might have to offer.

    What do you consider the maximum amount of miles if any you are willing to dead head to get moving? I will assume that your good at planning and realize that sometimes a dead head to a good paying load is a wise business move. I also know that a cheaper paying load might be the ticket to a good paying load.

    I have not heard reefers mentioned much. Does Landstar have access to reefer freight or freight that runs on the more popular produce lanes? Depending on the season for me it would be outbound from AZ or CA. Does Landstar have access to reefer equipment?

    Finally I see alot of UPS loads that originate in Ontario,CA I assume that these run out and back from one of thier hubs because they have no final destination. Anyone know what those loads are?

    Thank you in advance for any help you can offer.
     
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  3. rwdfinch50

    rwdfinch50 Medium Load Member

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    O.k., first, the UPS loads. Most are team runs, due to the time constraints. Some agents have a few single runs available, depending on where you are, but it's hard to put together more than one trip. It would be nice if you could line up a week or two of them. They pay better. It's 70% plus fuel surcharge, which I think is 55 cpm. at the moment. Don't quote me on the surcharge, but I think it's right.
    Now, I would suggest that you draw a line from LA across I-40 to Atlanta, (yes, I know I-40 doesn't go to Atlanta), then up to Toledo, possibly Cleveland, across to Chicago, down to Kansas City, then back to LA. This is the area with the better rates right now. It does change, but this lane has been pretty consistent over the last few months.
    You will see pretty good rates into Florida, but be warned, you will end up deadheading at least to Georgia, probably Atlanta, to get a load that will even cover your fuel costs.
    I hope this helps a little. good luck here. You'll be happy you came when you figure it all out.
     
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  4. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Everything helps at this point,I appreciate you taking the time to throw in your two cents. I was going to try running out to Florida but I know the good rates going in have to make up for the fuel to get out to at least Atlanta.
     
  5. rwdfinch50

    rwdfinch50 Medium Load Member

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    If it makes any difference, I live in Florida. I speak from experience. I generally stay out at least two weeks at a time, just because I lose so much money coming home. But there is plenty of freight into Florida. I should mention that I was told there are more Landstar drivers from Florida than any other state. I do believe it.
     
  6. fireba11

    fireba11 Heavy Load Member

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    Depending on what a load pays...we have been known to deadhead over 600 miles for a load, but it must be worth our while.

    You didn't say what kind of trailer you will be pulling! This makes a big difference in what lanes to run.

    I have seen alot of platform trailer freight that runs the I-5 from Cal to Wash. You might want to check that lane out.

    Once you are signed on....the website with the loadboard has a "lane match" area to help you figure out what would work best for you and what agents have freight in certain areas.
     
  7. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Going to be starting off in vans,thats really all I have ever done. When I was younger I spent a few years working as a rough neck,got alot of experience loading,securing and unloading when we did rig moves.

    Is the other side of the business something you can get into over time at Landstar and is there formal training or is it just a combination of having the aptitude,commom sense and geting out there and getting it done? I have been giving moving into more specialized freight alot of thought since I decided to sign on with Landstar.
     
  8. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    I plan on staying out at least two weeks or longer if thats what it takes.

    More Landstar drivers in FL than any other state,thats pretty cool.
     
  9. fireba11

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    If you don't have any experience with platform trailers....Landstar has a securement class you can attend to teach you some of what you need to know.

    While van freight is o.k. to lease a trailer, flatbed freight is better with owning your own trailer. Their rental program isn't too bad but having your own is better.
     
  10. Desert_Skies

    Desert_Skies Medium Load Member

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    Is that securement class easy to get into or is there a waiting list? Also I thought I remember reading somewhere that you needed to be on for a year before you could rent equipment.
     
  11. fireba11

    fireba11 Heavy Load Member

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    as far as I know, anyone leased to Landstar can take the securement class, I put my wife through it and tagged along as I had nothing better to do and actually learned a thing or two with all the new regulations over the past few years. We rented a trailer right from the beginning with Landstar. To buy a trailer through them you must have been with the company for at least a year.
     
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