Flagging oversize load

Anything over 102" (8'6") wide, or in some cases on some of those skinny PA roads where the limit is 96" (8'). If you guys have an annual permit with conditions I don't know about, they are full of that brown smelly stuff.
I've done a fair amount of OD in PA, and every single omit I've ever gotten also required signs over above limits as well!
Be careful, just because the company says it's alright, doesn't mean it is!
They may be doing that to save permit costs, and delays of having to actually wait for said permits to be issued.

 

Listen to Hammer, Also pull up the provision sheets for Pa. and it will explain in full detail what all you need to do.. Anything over 102" wide does need a permit...

 

Well, according to...

PA CHAPTER 179. OVERSIZE AND OVERWEIGHT LOADS AND VEHICLES

§ 179.10. General conditions.

(16) Flag requirements. Points of excessive length (including an overlength vehicle or combination or a load extending more than 4 feet beyond the rear of a combination) and width, including an overwidth vehicle or a load extending beyond one or both sides of a vehicle or combination, shall be marked with clean, plain, red or fluorescent orange warning flags, at least 18 inches square.

http://www.pacode.com/secure/data/067/chapter179/chap179toc.html
​

And according to several summaries compiled by other companies (two of which I frequently used and found to be "mostly" accurate)...

Sammons Trucking Permit Book

LEGAL DIMENSIONS: Width: 8'6" on designated highways, 8' on other roads

SIGNS, FLAGS & LIGHTS: "Oversize Load" signs are required on front of tractor and rear of load or trailer (whichever
extends the farthest) on all oversized loads unless otherwise specified in the permit. Signs must be removed or covered when the
vehicle/load is no longer oversize. Flags are required at the widest points of any oversize load. Rear overhang of 4' or more must
be flagged, or have a red light attached to the end of the load during darkness. Headlights and rear lamps of a permitted vehicle
must be on during movement when traveling with pilot car(s).

http://www.sammonstrucking.com/docs/PermitBook.pdf
​

and

Specialized Carriers & Rigging Association Oversize/Overweight Permit Manual

LEGAL LIMITS: WIDTH 8' non-designated hwys, 8'6" designated hwys

Labeling — All vehicles and loads of excessive size must be marked with red or fluorescent orange flags not
less than 18" square. Signs with the words “OVERSIZE LOAD” must be placed on the front and rear of the
vehicle, and on both the front and rear of pilot cars when escorts are required. The sign attached to a
permitted vehicle or load must have dimensions of at least 7' x 18", with 10" black letter with a 2 inch letter
stroke on a yellow background.

http://permits.scranet.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Pennsylvania.pdf
​

If you are more than 8' or 8'6" (depending on routing), then your company and the guy who normally does all the oversize appear to be wrong. However, I have never hauled an OS load in PA, so someone else more experienced may correct me.

As always, read your permit.

Oh, wait... no permit? Now I see your problem.

 

If the wrong cop sees him, it can be costly.. Even the lazy guys who like to leave their banners on have found out than can be costly also

 

To me, it is about safety. Some states just require flags on just the load. I flag the truck and trailer along with the load. I WANT TO BE SEEN BY ALL! Oversize is oversize regardless what your boss says!

 

They wouldn't be waiting for permits if they bought an annual. And if they were smart, They'd do it ahead of expiration so that it arrived in time for expiration .

Basically, Anything that extends beyond the trailer. Or 8.6 feet. But, you might do yourself a favor and google PA oversize and learn what you can find. And probably be a good idea to print and have in a binder for yourself. Just in case the cops hassle you.Pa DOT should have all the infor on their websight, preferable under one link so everything is there with out clicking on other links to find everything. Then you can just print out however many pages there are on just that one link.

Not all states operate the same when it comes to oversized. For instance, California. 1 feet over on the left side requires flags and lights if driving at night. NOTHING is required on the right side. According to the caltrans websight. I don't know about my annual for this year. Haven't read it yet. But last year that requirement was 10 feet wide on the annual. I haven't pulled anything over 10 wide for current company. So i don't now about the requirements beyond 10 feet. In Cali.

 

How long can it take to bungee on 4 flags? Just do it and ride.
If you don't have the provision sheet with the curfew maps on it you are not legal.
You do understand the pa rules about staying on route?