fault code 2552,injector meter rail high pressure,HELP

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  1. Appotox

    Appotox Bobtail Member

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    I'm having trouble with that truck today of mine again. 2006 Intl 99001 with Cummins ISX475(cm870)
    Did overhead today and everything came alright.
    I had this ticking noise in passenger side of motor last 4 weeks,read a post somewhere that i could switch fueling actuators,but i actually switched timing actuators and ticking went away. I believe order goes it goes Fuel,timing,timing,fuel,am I right. Well I switched positions 2 and 3. Today when I got done with overhead,I took off #1 and #4 solenoids(Fueling,I guess)and switch them positions.Also cleaned a gaskets,back of solenoids and wall of the pump where u tighten solenoids to. Started the truck and its knocking like crazy,rpms are 1500-2000 and climbing.1 st start was surgin a lot and smokin a lot and had to start it 5-6 times . it has code 157,fm0, which i believe is 2552 (INJECTOR METERINGRAIL #1 Pressure high) .What do u think its causing it and could it be air in the system when I switched #1 and #4 solenoids?? Please,Help
     
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  3. pawpaw1

    pawpaw1 Medium Load Member

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    I switched all four of my solenoids , also , and have that ticking noise intermittently , also. But , it smoothed out the idle quite a bit , and that's what I wanted. Like to know what that ticking noise is , also.
    I don't think your problem is air , least I hope not. I would think the system would purge any air out , by itself. Have you tried switching #1 and #4 back again , to see if it corrects ?
    I read of one fellow on a thread , who said the only way his problem was corrected , was replacing all 4 actuators at the same time. Replacing 2 at a time didn't help him , but he bit the bullet , and replaced all 4 at once.
     
  4. Appotox

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    yeah i switch them back and forth,but same result. Idk if that metal gasket would do any difference.
     
  5. Appotox

    Appotox Bobtail Member

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    Hey PAWPAW are they all the same or is there a difference between fuel and timing solenoids, I ve noticed two of them have a little nipple in the front,right above where you plug in harness. Are those with nipples fueling or timing. mine is set as nipple,plain,plain,nipple . Is yours set the same way? Solenoid 2.jpg
     
  6. pawpaw1

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    They are different . Mine doesn't have metal gaskets , just an O-ring. You got the order right. You can switch 1 & 4 , and 2 & 3 .
     
  7. Appotox

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    Tx,PawPaw. i gonna check harness pins on each one in the morning ,just to make sure pin aint cracked on one of them. Do you think air in fuel would cause surging and smoking enough to produce that injector metering rail high pressure??
     
  8. pawpaw1

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    Dang ! That's a good question. Surging , yea , that's sure possible , with air in the fuel line. Smoking , I wouldn't think so. Smoke means too much fuel , or not enough air. Improper air/fuel mixture , you know ?
    That's why I think these systems would be self-purging . Not sure , by any means . But , unless something else is wrong , and a supply of air is constantly entering the fuel system , I would Think, given Cummins high pressures , it would force any air out.
    There's a post here , somewhere , in another thread , that tells you how to check for air getting into the fuel line , on a constant basis. BUT , that fellows problem was run-on, after shutting the key off. So, I don't Think that's what we're talking about here.
    Like I said , I switched my timing and fuel actuators , with no problems , except for this : mine ( 05 engine in an 06 KW , stock from the factory that way , common ) is : mine don't have metal gaskets , they have O-rings , and , 2 . One of the O-rings stuck onto the fuel pump , I didn't notice it , and I had 2 O-rings on one , and None on the other . The one with 2 leaked all over , at idle , and I took them both back off , made Sure I got it right the second time , and it started and ran well. No problems.
    Hope this helps !
     
  9. pawpaw1

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    I wanna add one thing. I got a fault code , using the Insite program , that showed 0 oil pressure , once. I replaced the sensor , no more fault code.
    Also, Cummins electrical connectors to the engine , for sensors , seem to be pretty well waterproof. The truck builders ( KW ) , who put sensors on the engine , well , they seem to not be waterproof. They'll put a rubber boot over them , but a mechanic , or owner , who slits that rubber boot, or takes it off , invites a problem.
    On my truck , getting water in a top facing electrical connector , when I had my truck washed , an they opened the hood , well , it only takes a drop or two in the right place , to short it out , and 5 volts shorting out , can burn the pin right off a sensor. Some of those sensors are Dog-Gone expensive!
     
  10. Appotox

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    I put in new gaskets on all 4 of them,they are metal ones. Started it up and it started surgin for 3-4 min , a lot a smoke then it kind a evened out to 1100 rpm and it sounded like it was operating about 450 rpm. It kicked on then to 1500 for 3 min then cycled slowly 1600-1300 for 2 min . After that went to 2300 and stayed there till shut it of after 6-7 minutes. I called Cummins and talked to service person and told me when it purges air should not take more than 5 min and this last part,idling at 2300 rpm shouldnt be doin that. I didnt get that injector metering railing #1 high pressure code this time,but instead i got Low fuel pressure code. I'm lost here.
     
  11. pawpaw1

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    Me to! Is there a sensor on the fuel pump ? Maybe its gone bad , or has a bad connection. That might account for the engine running at high RPMs. The ECM would think its starved for fuel. But, it should see the RPMs , and.... , heck , now I'm really lost....
     
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