F550 Towing Capacity w/hazmat?

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  1. waterboy222

    waterboy222 Bobtail Member

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    Im looking at purchasing a portion of my current employers business and stepping into my own career. Weve agreed on a price to distribute 3 of his products and I know the amounts that the customers take.

    3 liquid products, ranging from 10.1 #/g to over 12.5 #/g in three removeable "megatainer" tanks on a flatbed truck and gooseneck

    Im considering the F550 because most of the customers are smaller, less accesible plants down dirt roads and pastures. He wants to get rid of this side of the business because his class 8 trucks and tankers can no longer service the smaller accounts.

    All 3 products are hazmat corrosive 8.1, by the way.

    On Fords website, it says the towing capacity of the new F550 is 25,500.
    With a 8000lb trailer, 3 tanks equipment, hose reels plus the weight of the product I would need to be right at 25,000 lbs everytime the truck leaves for its route, which would be three days a week.

    But when you start "Build and Price" the F550 on the site, it keeps saying "Towing Max 16,000lbs".
    Then when you get to the options page, the "towing pkg" says it increases GCW to 35,000 lbs?!
    Im lost here. Can I put 25k behind a F550 or 16k? Anybody have any advice?
     
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  3. SHO-TYME

    SHO-TYME Road Train Member

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    You can go buy a nice used single axle tractor for ALOT less than a new F550 and it'll last longer, have more brakes and probably get close to the same fuel milage.....

    Then if you get busier down the road, all you have to do is get a bigger trailer.
     
  4. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    You have to watch the GCVWR for towing.

    Second, it is a ford and the new motors are worthless.

    For steady weight hauling and the risk of the hazmat, you should be looking at a bigger truck.

    The brakes on most of the smaller trailers will be electric and the bigger truck can handle the conversion
     
  5. ronin

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    Yes, and you're MAXED out on the 550 all the time... and your fuel mileage in the 550 would be worse than a bigger truck working 1/3 as hard.

    GCW is Gross Combined Weight, and if they're claiming 35k, then yes, you can put 25k behind the truck - there's no way on God's green earth that I want a 550 controlling 25k, though. Heck, I can get 25k MOVING with a small pickup... CONTROLLING it is a different matter entirely.

    This is an area of interest and expertise for me, having had several duallies, including an F450 and a Dodge 5500. Shotyme is right on the money - get a used (pick your brand) tractor, enjoy a LOT more torque, like 1600-1800 ft lbs versus 700 ft lbs... and get the SAME mileage.
     
  6. misterG

    misterG Road Train Member

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    showtyme is correct.

    you might be happier with something like this for example.

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  7. waterboy222

    waterboy222 Bobtail Member

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    I should have mentioned that I need to have a 4x4 truck for winter use in the pastures to get to their day-tanks. Most of my mileage will be VERY short runs. Our monday route is less than 300 miles round trip with 7 - 10 stops. Tuesday and wednesday runs are less than 150 miles with 2 stops. I agree that the mileage would be better on a tractor but their overall size makes it really difficult to consider one for this setup. The International XT was the first truck I considered because of the 4wd option, but its nearly 50k MORE than a 550...

    What else should I be considering in that size class besides the 550? I use a sportchassis M2 to tow the boat and i know for a fact it would be a dream to drive with 25k behind it, but its two wheel drive and absolutely, completely 100% usesless offroad. Half the boat ramps in the midwest are too steep or wet for it, I cant imagine trying to pull a sloshing load of chemicals on a snowy pasture road with it.
     
  8. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    My opinion on the fords is quite simple.


    How much is Ford going to give you to drive it?
     
  9. ronin

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    Finding a 4 wheel truck big truck isn't impossible, either - LOTS of single and tandem axle trucks out there with a live front axle, many have been used as utility trucks... then the body is removed for trade-in, you add a fifth wheel assembly, and you're done.
     
  10. waterboy222

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    I guess Im going on bad information then.. I was told to steer away from BIG 4wd trucks because of the gas mileage would be worse than a loaded 550.

    Is there any certain terminology I could be searching for to find some of these types of trucks?
     
  11. ronin

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    Not really... 4x4 and 6x6 is common. Having a driven front axle isn't that much weight, considering the weight you're already dealing with.
     
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