The limit is 26,000. Any single or combination above that requires cdl.
If you don't want a cdl. Your total weight needs to be below 26000.
That includes vehicle and whatever is being towed.
F450 tow truck tow capacity
Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Dino soar, Jun 4, 2024.
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@Dino soar you have a few different things going on here. First, the CDL rules are the same for tow trucks as any other truck so you have to stay 26,000 pounds on the tow truck and cannot tow anything that has a gross weight, or weight rating, over 10,000 pounds.
This means, when on a scale your two axles on the tow truck can't have more than 26,000 pounds (or whatever they are rated for if less) and the towed vehicle can't have a weight rating over 10,000 pounds.
Tow trucks distribute weight different than pickup trucks because the tow bar is behind the axle so unlike hotshots (pickup and trailers) I can't give you a simple answer like truck rated at 14,000 pounds can tow a 12,000 pound trailer and still be legal, safe and non-cdl.
Further limiting tow trucks is the specific tow body and what it is rated to lift and tow.
Now, flat towing with a towbar would be about the same. Stay under 26,000 pounds and hook to nothing rated or actual weight over 10,000 pounds and you will be good provided the towing truck doesn't exceed its axle or gross weight ratings.Dino soar Thanks this. -
By that logic.
You wouldn't need a cdl to drive a semi with an aluminum flatbed.
Or maybe you would.
How much does an empty 48 ft weigh? 9200 pounds for a reitnour according to google?.
The combined weight used to be around 30k with a Volvo.Last edited: Jun 5, 2024
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Now if I were to buy a rollback that was 26,000 pounds, in that situation I could put on whatever vehicle will put me up to 26,000 pounds when I go over a scale. And that probably let's me haul 14,000- 16,000 lb or something in that range, depending on tare weight.
I think for me if that's the case I would probably get the most out of a rollback. I believe on the rollback you have about 10 ft of height that you can put on there so that would work for me.
Am I on the right track now?
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In a later post someone showed me the weights of the 26,000 lb rollback trucks. Very heavy carrying less than 10,000 pounds.
For now I'll use my c700 to flat tow less than 10,000 pounds and anything else I'll have somebody haul in.Last edited: Jun 6, 2024
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You will exceed your rear axle weight rating extremely quickly. You also don't want to lose more than 1/2 of your static front axle weight or you lose your ability to steer and stop.
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Are you saying that if you haul a 12000 lb truck on a 26,000 lb rollback that will exceed your rear capacity and make it so that the truck is difficult to steer? -
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My 26,000 lb dump trucks with heavy Dayton Wheels and heavy leaf springs and a heavy steel dump bed only weigh 10 or 11,000 lb.
The chassis of my trucks with no dump bed on it can't weigh any more than 8,000 lb. I realize the rollback has more frame but it doesn't have all those heavy Springs and Heavy Wheels and the heavy dump bed.
I considered taking the dump bed off of one of my trucks and stretching it and putting a roll back on it because I can't imagine that the (aluminum) rollback bed itself weighs anywhere close to what that steel dump bed weighs with that big subframe and the big piston.
It's hard to believe that the aluminum wheels and the air ride and the aluminum bed doesn't offset the extra weight of the longer frame and I would think they would roughly be around the same weight.
Don't they have 26,000 rollbacks that are all aluminum wheels and air ride with an aluminum deck?
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If you are towing anything much larger than a 1 ton pickup you are going to want/need something larger. We had a 12 ton wrecker on a 26k chassis that did great for like F550/5500s and school buses/box trucks stuff that size. Ended up replacing it with a 20 ton and use that for almost everything besides loaded tractor trailers.Last edited: Jun 5, 2024
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