F450 tow truck tow capacity

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  1. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    If this is the wrong section please move it mods I don't know where to put this.

    Does anyone know what an F-450 with a boom and a tow bar, does anyone know what size of a truck that F450 can pull?

    I'm guessing the F-450 has around a 15,000 GVW. Could I pull on that size of a wrecker an F800 dump truck that weighs 11,000 lb? Can I pull back a truck tractor that weighs 15,000? I'm assuming a ten wheeler weighing 20,000 lb is too much.

    How do tow trucks and their own individual gross vehicle weight or gross combined vehicle weight, how does that translate into what size of a truck or how much weight you can pull? How do you determine where the limit is on that?

    How about for a 26,000 lb GVW wrecker truck with a boom and tow bar?

    Is there some scenario that with a 26,000 lb non CDL wrecker you go into CDL territory by what you haul?

    @brian991219 if I remember correctly, you are familiar with tow trucks and their regulations.
     
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  3. abyliks

    abyliks Road Train Member

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    What’s the door tag say?
     
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  4. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    Wreck builder will change door tags with all info. Everything has a rating. Wheel lift, boom, tow bar. No one answer. Multiple different builder, and bed sizes available for a F450 chassis.

    As far as legal operation. You fall under state and fed road limits.

    Only thing I can add, but every state is different. In Ohio you are exempt on weight from scene of accident or disablement to the closest capable repair facility or back to wrecker storage yard. Secondary tow, you are subject to weight and measurements law.
     
  5. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    I just happened to see a truck for sale so I was curious what size truck I'd be able to haul in with it.
     
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    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    2017 f450 super duty crew cab 4x4 is 32k I believe,,,,, why are my letters pink??

    Edit to add: thats from the gooseneck. My 2008 I could tow like 23 or 24k from a gooseneck.
     
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  7. brian991219

    brian991219 Road Train Member

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    Dino soar,

    A typical F-450 has a GVWR of 14,500 to 16,000 pounds, depending on model year. What it can tow is based on a combination of factors including the tare weight, wheel base and the ratings of the wrecker body mounted on it. Not all wrecker bodies are equal based on the sizer of chassis mounted to. The same body could be mounted on a variety of chassis which would affect the capacity to tow. Due to limitations on rear axle weight ratings in smaller chassis the F-450 usually is the limiting factor, not the tow body, and they usually can only lift 3-4,000 pounds, towing a vehicle weighing up to 10,000 pounds.

    Yes, you can easily get into CDL territory with a F-450 towing a vehicle. It can jump from no CDL straight to a Class A simply by the combination weight rating of the tow truck and the vehicle in tow.

    As for weight rules, they vary by state and by type of towing you are doing. As mentioned above, some states exempt form weight if a accident or police ordered tow or from the first point of disablement to the nearest safe have, while other do not. There is no one size fits all answer. In Pennsylvania, where you are based, tow trucks must comply with axle weights even on first moves except at the direction of law enforcement.

    Lastly, depending on the ratings of the wrecker body, yes, you may be able to mount it on a larger chassis and be abel to tow a bobtail semi, especially form the rear. Post a link to the ad and I may be abel to give you some guidance.
     
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    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    It varies by year and of course hauling from a hitch or a gooseneck.....
     
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    86scotty Road Train Member

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    FTE Forums (Ford Truck Enthusiasts). Huge forum. Surely there's some info there.
     
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    Or call the dealer with Vin.

    But yeah. 20 year old probably can't do as much as today's builds.

    He didn't specify what year.
     
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  11. Dino soar

    Dino soar Road Train Member

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    Well maybe I should re-ask my question in a different way. I just happened to see that truck and I thought the tow trucks would work the same as a regular truck, that when you see that size truck it can tow about this size truck (gvw, tow rating, etc.)

    To simplify it, I'm just looking for a way that I can haul in whatever size truck is the biggest truck that I can bring in without CDL. Eventually I would like to buy a flatbed or Wrecker that's a non CDL setup and what I bring back is the largest I assume non CDL that I'm allowed to.

    Right now I have a 1968 c700. It's the same truck they used for Roadway Express, although mine came from the Preston line.

    The GVW on that truck is 24,000 pounds. I have a heavy duty tow bar that I can use with it.

    I'm not sure if it's any simpler or not, but my understanding of flat Towing is that you're just not allowed to pull out of class.

    So I believe that would be class 6 and I could flat tow anything that's up to 26,000 pounds.

    Is that correct?

    Is there a simple answer to what kind of rollback or wrecker eventually that I could buy that is non CDL and I stays non CDL with whatever I haul in? I assume the limit would be a 26,000 lb truck?
     
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