EPU

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  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    Been around trucking for a few years. Tried several solutions to stay cool. As an owner operator, I used the little Honda generator along with a stand up A/C in the passenger seat with so-so results.

    As a company driver I've had two trucks with APU's one worked great, the other did not work at all.

    My most recent former gig, the truck I drove (2013 Coronado) had an EPU. Worked wonderfully, in fact I had to pack a blanket around the vent to keep ice from blowing on me.

    My current gig is with a 2021 579 Peterbilt equipped with an EPU as well. This one is 'smart' equipped. When the batteries get below 20%, it auto-starts the truck to recharge all the batteries, much like an APU is supposed to do. Runs the truck about one hour to bring them back up to 80%. As we know, the big engine running for an hour burns about 1 gallon of fuel. APU's run approximately 1 gallon for 10 hours.

    I have to say the EPU is superior in its silence and lack of pollution. Ever get out to do your walk around the driver next to you has an APU that is louder than 3 lawnmowers and the exhaust is trapped between the trailers and you're choking out?

    Beside all that, I think EPU's will be the future as CARB has been threatening to require DPF tech on APU's for a while.
     
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  3. Moosetek13

    Moosetek13 Road Train Member

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    Hi Scottie...
    What is an EPU compared to the APU?
    I have never heard the term before.
     
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  4. MGE Dawn

    MGE Dawn Road Train Member

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    From my own research, it appears that an EPU is just an electric APU that draws power from the tractor's electrical system
     
  5. InTooDeep

    InTooDeep Donner party survivor

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    Exactly it is Electric power unit. I have one and it has 3 deep cycle batteries mounted behind sleeper between the frame rails.
     
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    snowwy Road Train Member

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    Does that mean 4 batts for the truck plus 3 for equ? 7 in total for the alternator to charge?
     
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  7. Arctic_fox

    Arctic_fox Experienced mx13 execrator

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    My problem with the electric apus at least as an O/O is that they tend to chew through batterys especially in winter or summer when the charge is affected by temps and how hard the Eapu needs to work to keep you cool or warm. This results in both less charge from the batterys due to outside temp (can be mitigated by a CCed or under bunk battery setup) and using more power to do the same job resulting in more charge cycles and lower battery life or even damage on some battery types.

    This is further exasperated if you have an inverter and decide to use electric products. Not unusual for an Eapu truck to only get 3 to 5 hours if someone has a lot of electronics going like say a TV, sat dish, laptop, gameing system, fridge ect. These use a lot of power and can greatly shorten your charge time.

    Batterys are expensive and while you dont need an oil change every 3 months with an Eapu, the all at once cost of batterys can be a hard pill to swallow as opposed to the spread out cost of diesel maintaince. Added to this is bad batterys means no EAPU means lots of idle. A diesel APU can go quite a ways past a scheculed maintaince before damage occurs and can buy you time in a pinch....say after a major repair or a lot of down time. Though diesel APUs have more failure points.

    There is also the whole lithium fire thing as a posible outcome if you go that route. So cost is a wash either because you spent a ton extra up front for better batterys or because you replace them once or twice a year which offsets any fuel savings or APU maintaince and repairs.

    There is also the fact a breakdown can leave you in dangerious conditions without heating or cooling. Idealy this would never come up but anyone who owns a truck can tell you it eventually will and you could spend as much as a day waiting on a wrecker. Or if you are an O/O it can remove the option of skipping a hotel. No one is going to willingly sleep in a truck that gets up over 100 or down below 0. A diesel APU will work even if your truck borks. Electric.....not so much. Again not a common thing but something to factor in.

    On the flip side Eapus do tend to work more consistantly and have less parts to go bad overall. They also are quiet and dont stink either. And once def comes into play i agree they will be a superior overall option because def=death to anything mechanical. For the moment though because of the above i would say diesel APUs are slightly better then Eapus overall.

    To be clear im not saying Eapus are bad just not as good a choice as diesel from an O/O standpoint. For a fleet a lot of these considerations just dont apply as they have advantages someone like me with 1 truck does not.
     
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  8. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    EPU just stands for Electronic Power Unit. Basically the same function as an APU except it runs off of a battery pack which are charged while the truck is running during the day. In the early days they could pump out A/C nearly the full 10 hours a driver was on their break. The one I have now won't make it quite 10 hours, but there is an option that will cause the truck to start and run when it detects the batteries are at 20% or lower. My truck does have a 1500 watt inverter and a built in fridge which is why the A/C cannot make it the full 10. I just started the job a couple weeks ago. I plan to document the performance of the EPU in the truck as the summer gets here. I run 11 western states so there will be plenty of opportunity to sit in 110 + degree temperature days.
     
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    reeferwrencher Medium Load Member

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    EPU is definitely the future.Thermo king already had the optional Dpf for the tripac and it was a disaster which is usually the case with Dpf.
     
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    My truck had the idle free epu on it when I bought it , it did every thing so so but nothing well .
    Parts were very expensive also.
    Then one night it developed a dead short and pretty much melted the unit .
    Threw it in the scrap pile and replaced it with a diesel carrier ....not perfect but much happier.
     
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