ELD requirement for under 26000?

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  1. DougA

    DougA Road Train Member

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    Can anyone tell me if my son's service truck needs an ELD?He is in Md,has a DOT number,2006 F-550 Ford truck is licensed as 20k,26k combination.I've tried wading through all this govt. stuff and can't figure it out.Thanks.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

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    If he's required to keep a log book (which he does over 10,000#), and his truck is a 2000 or newer, then he'll need an ELD. If he returns to the same place every day, stays inside of a 100 air-mile radius, and doesn't work more than 12 hours, then he's exempt provided he doesn't disqualify himself for that short-haul exemption by needing to fill out a log book more than 8 days in any 30 day period.
     
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  4. DougA

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    He's never kept a log,always stays inside a 100 mile radius.Leaves his house in the am,home every nite.
     
  5. ZVar

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    Ok, just because he doesn't log does not mean he's legal.
    First question is he over 10k lbs for the truck? Since it's a service truck I would guess yes.
    He should be following logging laws (and med card, and a few others) in that case.

    He is required to log just like a full class a OTr guys do. He "might" qualify him for an exception though. There are 3 criteria to be exempt under the local logging rule.
    1. No more than 150 air mile radius (I'm assuming 150, as he doesn't need a CDL)
    2. Start the day and end the day in the same location. No, that shop down the road is not the same location....
    3. Must go off duty and take the required 10 hours break no more than 12 hours after coming on duty (Can work no more then a 12 hour day)​
    If he meets all three, he can do a timecard instead of a full graph log. If not he must do the full graph to be legal.

    As for ELD specific, he can NOT be exempt for more then 8 days out of 30. If he has to do the full graph log more than that, he will need an ELD for that time period.
     
  6. DougA

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    He has a Class A CDL with all endorsements,like I do,personal preference.Has a medical card.He owns the truck,it stays at his house at all times,when not working,self employed heavy equipment mechanic.Leaves from his house in the morning,allways less than 150 miles,returns to his house every night.Less than 26k weight.
    Will it need an ELD?
     
  7. ZVar

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    You covered two of the requirements. Does he meet the third one of no more than 12 hours on duty/driving?
     
  8. DougA

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    Well sometimes on a long day he might be out for more than twelve,but rarely.Is his wrenching time working on a piece of heavy equipment considered on duty?If he was,say out for 14 hours,hypothetically,who would know?Self employed,no boss.
    His day is usually,drive to jobsite,park truck,work on a bulldozer (or similar) for 8,maybe 10 hours,drive home.
     
  9. DL550CAT

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    He should keep a time card of some sort. But when he starts and stops who really knows???
     
  10. ZVar

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    Sounds like he does need to be keeping a graph log then. And with a full graph log he needs an eld.
    And any work is on-duty. Wrenching, driving, fueling, heck, even washing the truck should be.
    If he goes over the 12 hour mark more than 8 days out of 30 he will need one.

    My suggestion is to start keeping a time card. He should be doing that anyway. That way he will know if he is exempt or not. If he's exempt he's good, if not he needs to get used to logging before he runs into a leo having a bad day...
     
  11. Dieselboss

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    I concur with the others. He should keep a daily driver timecard (like every short-hauler should to stay away from hassles and be legal.) He is a CDL driver, you said. This means that he falls under the 100-mile (not 150) exemption on most days according to what you said. And that is 115 land miles (because the 100 they refer to is "nautical" or air miles.) Even if he DOES go outside of the short-haul exemption occasionally, he CAN do so by keeping a traditional paper grid log on those days as long as LONG AS he does not do it more than 8 times in a 30-day block of time. And as they stated, he has to leave and return to the same spot each day within 12 hours. With the info given this guy does not need an ELD if he falls in these parameters consistently.
     
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