Eld in a glider
Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by Speedy007, Sep 28, 2017.
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Yes. When a vehicle is registered, the model year should follow the criteria established by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA). There may be instances where the model year reflected on the vehicle registration is not the same as the engine model year, most commonly when a vehicle is rebuilt using a “glider kit.” In this circumstance, an inspector/investigator should use the model year on the engine to determine if the driver is exempt from the ELD requirements. If the engine model year is older than 2000, the driver is not subject to the ELD rule. In instances in which the engine model year is 2000 or newer, and the vehicle registration reflects a model year older than 2000, the driver is subject to the ELD rule. While the driver is not required to possess documentation that confirms the vehicle engine model year. 49 CFR Part 379 Appendix A, requires motor carriers to maintain all documentation on motor and engine changes at the principle place of business. If a determination cannot be made at the roadside, Law Enforcement should refer the case for further investigation.
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Just to clarify, I have a 2000 kenworth built 11/99. Engine is a 2ws cat bulit in 99.
Truck is titled as a 2000. I'm exempt, right? That's how I've read it thus far. -
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No it comes down to the block, and when it was built/cast. We have/had 2 2016 389 gliders one was factory remaned an one was built by the glider company (Fitzgerald glider) both are 12.7 60’s and both eld exempt...
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Manufacture date matters, reman date means nothing. Motor 99 and older are exempt
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Any 1999 or older manufactured motor is ELD exempt. Original manufacture date is the only thing that matters. Reman date means nothing... we’ve got/have had several glider trucks. Most recently 2 2016 pete 389 with pre 1999 12.7 60’s
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If a 1999 reman block is rebuilt to say 2018 specs, it becomes a 2018 model year and is not exempt (don't think that's even possible, but bear with me...)
If a 1999 reman is built to the same 1999 model year, then yes it would be exempt.Accidental Trucker and brian991219 Thank this. -
The key words are: EPA model year. Starting in the late 1970's engines in cars, and later in the 1980's engines in large trucks have to built to an EPA pollution standard, expressed in terms of model year built, as certified by the engine manufacturer. Every engine had a decal placed to indicate that information. A dealer is prohibited from repairing an engine and deviating from those specifications, with large fines involved.
The FMCSA used that standard when writing the ELD law. It has absolutely nothing to do with the date the block was cast, the head was machined, the date it was assembled, where it was assembled etc. It is all about what specifications were used, i.e injectors, camshaft, timing, ECM type etc etc. to meet the pollution standard of that year.
Most gliders come with a 1998 EPA engine year specification, because that was the last year diesel engines were built with no real pollution controls. They were gradually increased incrementally after that in 2000, 2004, 2007, 2012 and 2017 with further tighter pollution standards to be phased in in the future.
EPA model years are calendar, running Jan 1- Dec 31 of a given year. A Truck model year(by the vin) can be dated as far as 18 months in advance, which is why you are seeing 2020 trucks advertised now.
The ELD law allows an exemption for any truck with a 1999 EPA engine or older, even if it was assembled in say 2017.
The truck in the avatar is a 2000 truck by the vin, but had a 1999 EPA engine installed at the factory because it was assembled on Oct 5 1999. A reman engine, identical to the one originally installed, a 1999 EPA specification was installed in 2008 by a Detroit Diesel shop, who was prohibited by law from installing any engine deviating from the original specification. The truck is exempt from the ELD requirement. Our fleet has about 6 2000 model year(vin) trucks with 1999 EPA engines. they are all exempt. -
Detroit puts a new serial # on all there factory reman engines. I've tryed and I cant get the original manufacturing date from Detroit on my hk60.
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