Egr cooler plugged or bad egr?

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  1. Socal Xpress

    Socal Xpress Road Train Member

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    704k d13 10speed

    Last week had the new single piece manifold and complete turbo replaced. Truck still wont boost more then 21 psi and EGT's seems high with only pulling an empty trailer. Blowing black smoke when 8psi or more. Only code I have seen is Mid 128 pid 412 fmi 0. No power what so ever.

    To boot now I have have a coolant leak from either the 7th injector line or the egr cooler has sprung an external leak just under the doser housing. I see a coolant crust on the cooler but no visible leak. And now a DOC face plug. Just behind the doser housing. So the frame rail is now a new carbon color along with anything down stream of the doser housing.

    I had 1 regen with only 1270 miles and it lasted 19mins. Normally regens are 22 to 25 mins.

    Alot of #### to work threw and just wondering if a bad egr would be causing the black smoke and low boost/power.

    Any advice and or suggestions welcome.
     
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  3. Johny41

    Johny41 Road Train Member

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    Did you check if is not derated ? I had similar problems hard to diagnose caused by a bad EGR valve, low boost power,black smoke. I took the truck in 4-5 Volvo shops and they were clueless, because was not throwing egr fault codes and not doing it all the time, and finaly a mechanic here at Volvo in Cambridge Ontario replaced the EGR valve just to see if will make a difference , and this was the isue.
     
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  4. cumminskid123

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    that code is egr temperature-data valid but above normal operating range, you could have a bad egr temp sensor, stuck open egr valve, i'd also check the egr massflow sensor and sensing ports for plugging, and like i tell everyone, black smoke is caused by either not enough air... or too much fuel... if they installed your turbo and moved your vgt actuator over, they possibly didnt calibrate the vgt actuator properly?
     
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  5. Rob100100

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    What was the issue with the turbo etc. ?
     
  6. Socal Xpress

    Socal Xpress Road Train Member

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    The turbo was leaking oil into the cold side. Also the VGT was starting to hang up.
     
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  7. simon999

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    Did you replace vgt actuator aswell? Low boost can cause if you cac leaking. Pressure test your cac and check if no leaks. Also check if your doc is not plugged, if you have exhaust restriction you will also loose boost. Do 7ou have pyro gauge? What are turbo exhaust temps?
     
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  8. Socal Xpress

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    Turbo with actuator was replaced as a complete unit.
    I have a scan gauge and get my EGT and Boost readings from that. I have had a bad CAC before and this doesn't feel like anything like before.
    So I am at a shop this morning and driving here was a choir. As a bobtail the EGT's climbed upto 1150ish going up a minor hill. It has less power after replacing part of the DOC. I have a feeling that the dpf is plugged.
     
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  9. simon999

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    1150 can damage your turbo. Your egt suppose to be like 700max going hills. Pull your doc chec if it is not face plugged. If your truck has def, check if its not plugged def pipe and def doser.
     
  10. Socal Xpress

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    2010 d13 no def.
    Yea I am worried about the EGT'S getting to high.

    Thanks
     
  11. Rob100100

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    I was wondering if there was an issue with the DPF due to the picture you had showing the oil in and around the turbo. Oil leaks back and gets into everything from the Turbo back. When you can give an update as to what the outcome is. Good luck
     
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