Thinking about picking up my CDP (commercial driving permit) in pittsburgh unless there is a driving location/school with one of the companies that can provide that along w/ decent training.
After careful consideration I managed to create a short list on a few companies that have passed my first phase and more which I had in mind. I setup each phase to break down these companies so I could have a list in mind to plan through to find a good starter company. Their is a 99% chance in 6-8 months I could switch companies or wait out the 2 years so the experience racks up.
The 1st phase broke each company down into wither their students were paid while they were in training, and had temporary living expenses covered. By passing the 1st phase it made it easier to research which companies had better training programs in-place regardless of travel and location.
I sound very ####y or to deep in this - but I have a business and legal background and when your possible future career is at stake you tend to dig deep into these companies instead of just taking someone at their word or YouTube video.
2nd phase revolved around finding out the best starting pay mixed w/ benefits for new drivers, but when your new and starting from square one you know flat out you won't start out making alot regardless of what the recruiter may or may not promise. (always ask for any guarantee they make to be put in writing - do not take them for there word) Some companies may pay you by the mile or have other options so keep that in mind...
Review all deduction that will be on your first pay stub or deposit, and understand what they are taking out when you go company and your a W2 employee. If you go lease or are a o/o you are considered a 1099 and not considered an employee but a contractor. (1099s can right off alot of expenses for tax purposes) What they may not tell you is that some companies may include a legal deduction for a lawyer which cost around $7 a week (depending on which ever company you pick), and that adds up to a few hundred dollars a year you may not even need. (always ask about what your being charged for and then decided on options you may not need but are paying for)
3rd phase is more mixed where you are deciding which companies have descent lease programs and which division you want to be attached to (Tanker/hazmat, Reefer, Flatbed, and Dry van). (most employees put in there 2 years before leaving for something better) In most (all) cases you will have to get an endorsement(s) to make more and to be able to ad onto your experience. (pay bump)
If your new from what I have been reading it is safer to put in your time and stay w/ the company vs leasing or becoming an o/o. Then again everyone is different so you may in fact want to go down that route, but in my case I will stay w/ the company and learned the business on that end before making the crossover. (better to avoid heavy losses at the start and to keep debt to a min)
4th phase becomes more complex since there are no available copies of any contracts that these companies have for you to sign, and it makes it harder to understand the fine print in possible penalties if you leave before your program and or training ends. These penalties can range from $3k/$7k/$10K and more depending on what the contract stipulates, and by signing a contract blindly you risk paying for it in the end if you leave early for a better company.
And 5th phase would be to accept an offer after a valid conclusion has been made..(done deal)
keep in mind some companies may advertise they want a driver w/ experience (6 months, 2 years, etc..), but check their main websites out and you may in fact find out they offer schooling and training.
Current short list on companies I'm looking into (random order):
- Roehl Transport (Paid CDL Truck Driver Training - 60k-70K yr no exp) - You'll be paid $500 a week as you get your CDL in their four-week CDL training program.
- Steven Transport (SPONSORED training - $50,000 their first year, and 70k your 3rd year) - ALLIANCE LEASING w/ a 60 DAY TRIAL, and you can pick Kenworth T-2000 or a Peterbilt 387.
- Prime Inc. (mixed feelings on this - they have a great training program)
Other companies I have also looked at:
- Pam Transport
- Maverick Transportation
- TMC Transportation/Annett Holdings, Inc.
- WEL Companies
From what I was able to post on the few companies that seem as if they may have what I am looking for what advise can you give me that would better help me decide on a final choice.
A company w/ a solid program that doesn't cost anything, has a job offer in place w/ a decent reputation. (not sure if that was asking for to much) - I do plan on leasing and eventually becoming an o/o but that is for another day and not during my first 1-2 years at which ever company I end up at. (pray the dispatchers aren't that terrible)
Thank you
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Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Silver_Rayleigh, May 17, 2018.
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I think wel might be the best choice of your list ... almost like picking what type of cancer do you want. .....cold fact of the matter is until you get a year of experience companies will take advantage of you by lower pay and crapp load ..... most steveNS drivers I have talked to are lucky to net 40000 don't buy in too much of what recruiting tells you .strongly suggest you do not lease a truck from a carrier especially until you ## fill all your commitments for your training. .. my best advice is to keep a clean driving record and get a year at whatever company you choose then if you wanted to get into o/op buisness DO not lease a truck from a carrier it's easy to get the keys that's the only advantage period ... it is not that hard to lease a truck from a private dealer if you don't really want to buy one ... my suggestion is get a truck 3 or 4 yrs old with a little bit of warranty doesn't have to be much but 90 days at least enough to have a start the more money you can stash away the better until then ... penske has used trucks and they have a excellent maintenance program and records. .. finally I would lease on to either landstar or Schneider that way you can do your own load selection and manage your own business without some one telling you what to do ...... I prefer landstar (thats where I am ) over Schneider or even having my own authority . Schneider has thousands of company drivers that you compete with .. and for me the loads are better and I like the landstar system a lot better .I don't have my own authority and see no reason to go that way ... way too much bs to deal with and the money isn't any better ... I netted a little over $100,000 last year and I didn't work that hard .. I ran out of my 70 once all year ... so finish your training and just stick it out for your year commitment. and after that if you still want your own truck get it privately and you won't be stuck at a carrier ...
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Are their any catches w/ WEL or is it more straight forward w/ no hidden contracts. Within their contract what is the limit set at to where you can exit the program without having to pay anything back or is their a hidden fee set in place.
More interested in there training program length and the team driving setup and how long that will go on for before driving solo starts.
Question for current company drivers:
- How long did you stay company before switching to lease or o/o
- How long did you stay with your 1st company before finding a better one which paid out more
- What main issue was your deciding factor when you left your 1st company
- What is the longest you were able to stay out during your solo runs -
started out in an air freight company with a straight truck and after about 4 months they switched to a semi and I kinda learned on the job .. no school, no training. .. not recommended but it worked out for me after about a year they went out of buisness ... I went to doing a linehaul to Chicago and back .. never liked that job very much but stayed about 8 months then went to work for a contractor leased to uniroyal stayed there about 3 years until uniroyal changed the buisness model and no longer used contractor's. ... then my uncle was going to trade his old truck in and I bought that and just worked under his authority (or whoever he would lease on too ) then I bought his new truck after he was ready to trade that in . then I bought a fairly decent kw and run that for awhile ... I leased on to ffe twice in that 20 year period went back to working under my uncles authority and leased to landstar about 3 years ago and planning on staying but who knows anymore ... the Linehaul job was with overland express who went bankrupt and probably considered a large company and I never liked the place but needed some more experience so I just stuck it out . I think landstar has been my best job ( but I have everything paid for truck cars house so that makes it easier ) I like picking my own loads and setting my own scedule. . as far as staying out now I get home every night if I want . it pays better to go out and back and that's 2 or 3 nights a week ... unless I feel like going someplace and my wife usually goes with me .... kinda like a vacation we go to Virginia Beach ,Las Vegas . key west . Nova Scotia .. or just take a run out west ... in the winter if there is snow coming I will go to Florida or Texas ... and summers to hot so stay up north ... just avoid the snow and major cities (unless the money is too good to pass up ) but when I wasn't married I have stayed out 3 months. .. I live in Ohio so it's easy to get home ... I do a lot of drive buys what I mean by that is say I take a load to Harrisburg pa ... or del or md. va. I will get a load coming back going to st Louis Chicago area or Iowa and take my 10 hour break at homein between .. this changes a lot as the rates change and you have to be able to adapt ... sometimes I make more running Pittsburgh to Michigan and I am home every night ... this takes some time to learn how to do this all as it changes all the time .... this probably sounds great to you and it is and am probably going to make 3 times as much as you will with half as much work. ... the best advice I ever got was from an old timer in the 80s it was simple but have found it to be very true .. he told me that you can make a pretty good living being a dumb truck driver but you can make a lot more being a smart one .... now when you start out on your own get in the habit of stopping at the Petros and ta and the independents and talk to as many people as you can .. even if you can't afford to eat there sit down get some coffee .. you will run into some dumb guys but also a lot of guy's that know what there doing that you can learn from
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Hoping to see where the poll is at and what other drivers can share before deciding to train for my CDP and take the next step for my CDL w/ one of the starter companies.
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Of the ones listed, I'd suggest maverick just because of their training program is top notch. Followed closely by tmc. Similar training program but they tend to be more pushy for drivers to become trainers. I only drove for tmc and thats one reason why i left.
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Well, for your consideration, my company hires from that area for our yard in Youngstown, but you'll need a cdl first, and your background will need to be squeaky clean
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Maverick is partnered with a cdl school down in north little rock that you would go to, then once you get your cdl, youll be offered a job at maverick. But maverick is very picky on their prospects. If you was to get your cdl on your own youll do yourself a greater favor because youll open up a lot more doors for yourself. As there are so many companies that will hire new cdl drivers, but they wont hire a guy who needs his cdl
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