I have a question for all the motorheads here on the forum. I'm looking at purchasing my first truck and I'm in the testing phase of the truck to see if it's generally a good buy. There's been oil testing done and it's at the local dealership to have a dyno test done in the morning. My question is this: what would be an acceptable horsepower on a 2011 Mack MP-8 engine rated at 465hp? All I can get done here locally is horsepower output and power to the crank so all the other info people get on a dyno readout isn't available to me unless I take the truck to another city. The truck has a lot of miles on it and I just want to make sure there's still some life left in this engine.
Thanks for any numbers you can give me.
Dyno Testing and Horsepower Output
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Ronman105, Feb 26, 2019.
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I'm assuming you mean the dyno only reads hp at the tires?
85% of flywheel horse power. 465= 395hp at the back tiresspsauerland, Oxbow and SAR Thank this. -
Sorry, that's what I meant. Would anything below 85% mean there could be an issue somewhere or that's it's simply a tired engine?
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Hook it to a loaded trailer. Leave the landing gear down. Pour bleach on tractor tires.
Make a Contolled burnout.
Crank landing gear up and approach on Ramp.
Drop 1st like you’re daddy caught you talking in church .
Get 2nd like you want to run out of the room
Search for 3 rd like you forgot where the closet was
Ahh 4th breath
Enough breathing into 5th. Run with it. 6 th is right around the corner
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I was taught with a 425 engine long ago by a dyno man using simple words. He taught me that hotel power (Alternator, fan etc) steals a few horsepower. Transmission buys a little more. Then the rears and shaft and wheels etc soak up some more horsies. By the time the dyno feels the remaining horsies running on it you probably have lost about 115 or so of them. At cruise and put the foot down you go from base power to maintain say 200 hp to hold 55 and now you want to speed up. You have that 100 or so horses to add to the fight and get speeding up on flat ground. Only now you are fighting the outside air resistance and ground incline etc. That will soak up some more.
Whatever horses you have all out on that dyno should be better than 70% of what the stamp on the engine output in horsies say. Anything less you probably have a tired engine, or some other problem like no greasing etc. A form of arthritis in bad bearings parts or whatever.
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You do not need a meter to be able to say this blow by is way out of line under load. I would ask about looking at that.
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To the op...
A dyno measures the hp at the wheels, it is calculated to figure out what the horse power is at the flywheel. It should be at least 75% of the rather hp, which is good for a high mileage engine.
Blowby is measured at a full load (which the dyno puts on the engine) and is measured in inches of water. This is as important as the hp rating.
All the ancillary power drain is meaningless for general purposes, mainly because the dyno fits that all in.
If you are getting a dyno, and they can't do a blowby or give you the full results, take it somewhere that can, a lot of dealers have bought cheap chassis dyno and charge the same price as one who have good ones and can measure more than just hp and blowby like fueling under a load and general performance.BoxCarKidd Thanks this. -
Even saw a You Tube of someone using clear plastic hose with water in it making marks on the hose. If all you get is HP output that is a problem to me.
Ridgeline: Maybe I said that wrong but to me that is just as important as HP. Thanks for the additional information.spsauerland Thanks this. -
Thanks for the input. I went ahead with the dyno just to get a baseline idea of what to work with. They said it's putting out 404 horsepower (87% of rating) and less than 1" at the crank if I heard her correctly. To be honest, I'm not really clear what she meant by that.
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