DVIR question?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Chuggz, Mar 13, 2017.

  1. Chuggz

    Chuggz Bobtail Member

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    I got into an argument with my jobs mechanic about the DVIR, i hauled a trailer the night of the 11th and wrote it up for holes on the frame. I then had to haul that same trailer again, the night of the 12th and wrote it up again. He is saying i only need to write it up once so he gets it. Am I suppossed to write it up everytime till its fixed or put out of service for good or is once good enough?
    Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
     
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  3. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    Write it up once. The DVIR should be signed off on by a mechanic as to whether it has been repaired or if it is safe to operate with that noted defect present BEFORE it goes back on the road. If it has been written up, and a mechanic has not signed off that it has been repaired or that repairs are not necessary for safe operation, then you don't pull it out onto the road.
     
  4. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I write up equipment EVERY TIME if find a fault. If it's multiple times I write it up as

    "Left turn signal light not working. Write-up #3"
     
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  5. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    SHOULD still be signed off on by a mechanic prior to it being back out on the road as either having been fixed, or that the defect does not affect the safe operation of the vehicle.
     
  6. Mark Kling

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    It was not fixed the 1st time..... so if I had to pull it again I would write it up again.
     
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  7. flyby1971

    flyby1971 Light Load Member

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    Isn't the DVIR a statement of what you found during your checks? (Rhetorical)
    If the issue is still there then write it up. CYOA
     
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  8. Ridgeline

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    It is done every pre-trip, not just once. If they don't like it, tell them to have the FMCSA change the regulations.
     
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  9. Chuggz

    Chuggz Bobtail Member

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    Well that was my feelings on it. If it wasent fixed and they want me to pull it again im going to write it up again. Just like flyby1971 said,
    Thats how i feel, its a statement of what i found wrong with the truck and trailer.
     
  10. Pedigreed Bulldog

    Pedigreed Bulldog Road Train Member

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    I don't understand why you'd write it up more than once. The fact that you wrote it up and it hasn't yet been looked at doesn't mean you're OK to operate it again. You wrote it up for a reason, and somebody needs to certify that it is either 1) fixed; or 2) the defect noted is not safety related and the vehicle can be operated without being fixed. If one of those two things has not happened, you DO NOT operate that piece of equipment.

    If you don't see any reason to have the repairs done before you operate the equipment again, why'd you bother writing it up in the first place?


    §396.11(a)(3) Corrective action.

    (i) Prior to requiring or permitting a driver to operate a vehicle, every motor carrier or its agent shall repair any defect or deficiency listed on the driver vehicle inspection report which would be likely to affect the safety of operation of the vehicle.

    (ii) Every motor carrier or its agent shall certify on the original driver vehicle inspection report which lists any defect or deficiency that the defect or deficiency has been repaired or that repair is unnecessary before the vehicle is operated again.


     
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  11. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    So far, there are two correct but conflicting answers.

    Bulldog is correct in that you write it up one time ( as such). If you write it up, it HAS to be signed off on that day. Period. The mechanic HAS to note either:
    A) its safe for operation OR
    B) it is NOT safe for operation.

    If is (A), then continue to write it up a million times if you need to. I have written things up for years that the mechanic said is fine to operate on the road & it was, BUT, it still needs repairs. As long as it needs repairs, even if road worthy, write it up until its fixed.

    If its "B" & you pull that trailer, then its on YOU, not the mechanic. He siad its not safe for operation & you pulled it. Its no different than getting a trailer with no brakes on it & pulling it down the hwy. Its the same thing. Its been deemed by the mechanic that its not safe for operation. DO NOT PULL IT! If you don't pull it, you dont write it up cause you aint pretripping that trailer cause.... you ain't pulling it. Period.
     
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