i've been driving triaxle dumps for 15 years and wanted your opinion on hours of service as far as driving time.
i was told by the person in charge of safety where i work that we're not suppose to log more than 11 driving hours, we log our hours also. that "seems" to mean our driving time starts when we climb in the truck and start rolling.
it's non-stop dump and go all day long with no lunch break. alot of jobs start loading trucks at 5:30 in the morning which means i usually leave at 4:30 and they usually don't start signing drivers out til 4:30 in the afternoon. after being signed out on the job it's usually an hour back to fuel up and park the truck.
generally you're driving 12 or more hours a day with no breaks. if i start rolling at 4:30 i have recently started getting them to sign me out around 2:30 which gives me an hour to drive back and fuel up which comes out to 11 driving hours. it's seems like pulling a tooth when i mention the 11 hour driving regulation as they'd rather you keep on driving like everyone else but unlike everyone else i tend to get tired and actually need sleep sometimes.
i know this is the other end of the stick as most of you guys are looking for more hours but there are a few here and there tha need rest.
any thoughts? thanks
Dump Truck HOS
Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by will273, Mar 4, 2010.
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12 hours and no breaks?? What about the loading and unloading time? And you mean that you can't work from 4:30am to 4:40pm without a "nap", man I am 74 years old and have no problem with this.
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Can't you get out of the truck for 15 minutes at a time while waiting to load or unload and log it on line 4 ?
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I looked in the FMCSR book & it says if you drive "100 air-mile radius driver" you are exempt from the requirements of section 395.8 if (1)the driver operates within 100 air-mile radius of the normal work reporting location. (2)the driver, except a driver-saleperson, returns to the work reporting location & is released from work within 12 consecutive hrs. If you drive over 12 hrs. than you have to log. I hope this helps. S.T.
shriner75 Thanks this. -
Ive wondered the same as well. Hauling grain within 100 miles. But we do get out of the truck for 5/10 minutes though. Lunch? Well that is done while waiting in line at the ethanol plant or when ever I get a chance. Thanks for clearing my curiosity.
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it takes about 2 minutes to load and maybe 30 seconds to dump/unload so there are NO breaks...like i said it's dump and go.
grouch if you're going to make those last few runs you won't be getting off at 4:30 plan on at least 5:00 or so because ya got fuel up then drive the truck home. so where does the 11 hour rule come in then?
i was on the road at 5:30 this morning. the pit is an hour away from the job sight so it's a 2 hour turn around. they wanted one more load at 4:00 which would put me getting back to the job sight at 6:00, then i'd have to leave and go fuel up then drive home. i didn't go and told them to sign me out. this other guy DID go and he called me a half hour ago and he's 15 miles from where he needs to fuel up then from there he has a good 30 drive home in the truck. oh he was on the oad at 4:30 this morning.
but anyway wha'ts the 11 hour thing for then? why have it if it serves no purpose or if EVERYONE should drive more than that. -
i also asked my dispatcher about the 11 hours regulation and he said can't work more than 12 and can't drive more than 11. i told him if i make another round it will put me past the 11 driving and 12 working so what should i do? he said if i don't tell anyone he won't either and if i don't get another round he company won't make any money.
good then the company won't make any money. it a nutshell according to him i'm NOT supposed to legally make the run but he wants me to anyway just don't log it.
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not sure about the requirements...it's whatever i was told not to drive more than 11 and 12 working...whatever that falls under.
all i know is when i have to get up at 2:30 or 3:00 in the morning to be ON the road at 4:00 or 4:30 and work to whenever it #### well suits them i'm ready to bite someones head off!!! -
The air mile radius is true, and I'm pretty sure they've stepped up the mileage to around 250 air miles, which means if you operate within a 250 mile air radius you should only need a status report, and not have to log within the guidelines of "interstate" HOS. In florida where I live if you operate "intrastate" and within the 250 mile radius you're allowed to work 16 hours but must show 10 hours off at the end of each shift, and if I understand correctly after your 12th hour it has to be documented in some form of logging. Hopefully this helps a little, and I know all about the 2 am starts, my day starts at 1 am usually and I bump that 16 hour clock or atleast close to it, but I enjoy my job and don't complain about the hours, I'm happy to have a job and making a good paycheck.
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Where did you get the 250 miles from?
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