Dump truck contract hauling, brokers, etc

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  1. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    Hello,
    Long time since I posted here.

    But I will be getting a truck soon, and I'm curious as to landing contracts or even just working with brokers for a dump truck.

    Working out of Warshington State, and would prefer to stay here.

    To be clear, I'm just interested in short term hauls, say 1-2 days a week or a week here and there etc. To supplement my other projects, and justify owning said truck. I have no intention of farting in a cab full time... at least not anytime soon

    I've contacted local quarries, and a few of the larger trucking outfits that specialize in dump truck, waiting on a response.

    I've been running a 5yd truck for a couple years, but thats pretty much just home owner calls, or my own road building adventures with logging, I'm wanting something a little more sure, and hopefully a little more consistent with the money.

    Seems like trucks are in high demand here... so it shouldn't be to hard to find work... right... right?
     
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  3. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    Have you checked into what the insurance would cost? Most quarries in this area require you to carry general liability in addition to a million automotive liability. Assuming you have the funds to pay cash for the truck would it be worth it to you to work 1-2 days a week for 6-8 months every year to break even on your fixed cost?

    If you're not serious about the dump truck business I would stay with the small truck. The numbers will be smaller, but I doubt there would be much difference in the clear profit at the end of the year.
     
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  4. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    Haven't looked at insurance as yet, cause my broker is a douche... and plan on checking into tonnage today.

    For my 5yd truck insurance is only about 1000 a year, and tonnage around 600

    I know larger trucks will be more, just not sure how much more.

    As it sits I pretty much need the truck to haul my excavator, and skidder, hiring it done has gotten problematic, and expensive. My truck, I move today if I have to, instead of waiting a week for someone to be free, and I'm out diesel for a 50 mi round trip.

    I can also use a larger truck for hauling my own wastes, and bringing in more rock etc, the little truck does ok with hauling rock, but just plane sucks for hauling stumps and brush, its too short to do any good.
     
  5. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    ins 1344 fer 6 months... or 1000 for just the one truck (but i still have the little truck so..)

    totally doable, one 10 hr day pays the ins bill for 6 months out here

    Tonnage I'm waiting on the licensing place to open.
     
  6. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    That's for a million liability?
     
  7. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    ??? quarries here don't care. Keep in mind I've been running my little truck for 3 years already and the only person to ask for insurance so far has been the State Patrol... and that was a cursory glance, he was more concerned that I wasn't loaded to the gills ( its a light truck, so even with a full box I'm usually underweight anyway, the few times I've been overweight, it cause there wasn't any free board, front back or sides)

    as for tonnage, at 66k I'd be 90 a month ish, (figuring for truck, trailer, and excavator with no dirt)

    Still need to look into heavy use tax, but can't be that bad.

    Besides where missing the point here, How does one get hooked up with a broker or contract hauling, other then 9657 phone calls every month
     
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  8. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    I think you're going to find they do care if you're working for them. Your insurance quote is about half what I'm paying so my guess is you don't have much coverage for that price.

    Most quarries here have a broker dispatching the trucks. You just gotta go talk to them, and see if they need any trucks. The big dump outfits might use you when they're busy in the summer time.
     
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  9. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    looks like the ins I have is fer 750k, regardless, i'll find out more in the next couple days, as I've gotten my phone fixed and can make a few calls.

    Is it me, or do folks wan't to make this whole trucking thing sound harder than it is? oh its so expensive oh the headaches oh... quit whinning and get to work folks. costs of doing business, fuel, tires, repairs, maintanance, ins, tonnage, taxes etc, factor it into your bid or price per hour and go make money.

    Seems every owner op I know says oh its so expensive, until you look into actual costs, and see their insurance is so high cause they've had 1 dui and 3 at fault accidents in the last 3 years, then they whine about tonnage, and roads being to rough (guess what they are connected).

    Tires though... tires are expensive...
     
  10. SL3406

    SL3406 Medium Load Member

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    That's just what the dump truck business needs is one more guy running a junk truck around with minimum insurance who thinks it doesn't cost much to run a truck. Around here those guys speak Spanish, but I guess loggers are cut from the same cloth.
     
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  11. northmanlogging

    northmanlogging Bobtail Member

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    old doesn't necessarily mean junk,

    I maintain my equipment, but I'm not so vain as to think i need a spanking new truck with all the chrome and led lights. 120k vs 10k and I make the same amount per hour? Thats pretty simple math.

    And honestly, them folks that speak spanish are probably harder workers then most of us, and make a #### load of cash doing it. So what if they don't speak much english, they passed the CDL test, good enough for me. (by the way, in case you forgot, a cdl issued in the "great" country means proof of citizenship, ability to speak and read english, and pass a DOT physical)

    Maybe you should look at your own costs and make some informed decisions about how you spend your money.
     
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