Dump or hopper bottom

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  1. Image

    Image Light Load Member

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    I'm looking at adding a bulk trailer. I know for sure most of the loads will be grain out of ND. I'm not sure yet what the back hauls will be. I'll primarily stay within 6-800 miles of Fargo, so that's a pretty good part of the Midwest.

    I'm wondering how much having a dump with a grain door would hurt getting loads? Are there a lot of places that will only take hoppers? How about on the back haul, is using a dump trailer going to make it harder or easier to find loads back?
     
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  3. daf105paccar

    daf105paccar Road Train Member

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    Are there many flatbed loads in that area?
    There is a flatbed which is also a bottom hopper.
     
  4. MJ1657

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    Adm, Peavey, and CHS in the twin cities take end dumps. Not sure about some others but they are the big players. Lots of fertilizer comes out of the cities to ND in the spring. I'm guessing most receivers would require a hopper but I'm not positive.
     
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    Hey MJ, if I go with a hopper how many bushel capacity should I consider as my minimum? I'm hearing that to be flexible I should get the biggest hopper I can. Any suggestions? Also do you pull a spread axle trailer? Which do you think is better for a hopper trailer? I've got a spread on my flat and I like not having to worry about axle weights, just load a little towards the rear to be safe, and go. Is it highly suggested on a hopper to, or not a real big deal with bulk loads?
     
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    Flatbed falls off quite a bit in the winter. I already have a flat now, looking to add something to make me more diversified in the winter. I dont think it would make sense to add a converting hopper/flat since i already have a flat. In another thread MJ suggested a side kit for my flat, but after thinking about it I decided against it too since it limits where I can dump at.
     
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  8. MJ1657

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    That hopper would work fine unless you were to start hauling sunflower seeds, barley, and some other non grain products that are light. You won't be able to fill it full with corn, beans, wheat, fertilizer, etc. so that size is fine. The exception may be you could haul more weight in the winter so a bigger trailer may be better. I don't do much grain hauling in the winter and have never dealt with the winter over weight permit so i'm not the guy to ask on that.

    We have 2 40' Wilsons like you have pictured and a 42' Wilson with the high sides that we used to use otr.

    Not sure what to say about the spread axle hoppers. There are not any around here but you do see them out your way. The big reason you don't see them here is were dealing with a lot of older tight farm yards that wouldn't work good at all with a spread.
     
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  9. craggy1982

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    I pulled end dumps for years and I would have to say the spread was very nice to have. Only had a 9'1" spread though. hauling bulk loads with any kind of weight is always better if you can run a spread. esp if the local DOT scales are particular on weights.
     
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    I see spring suspension saves $5-6k on a new Timpte... Would I be silly to consider spring suspension on the trailer? I doubt the grain cares how comfortable it's ride is. And I doubt I would feel a deference in the cab with air ride seat, air ride cab, and air ride tractor. Unless I'm missing something all I'd low is the ability for a load gauge and wouldn't be able to add a lift axle kit for running empty. Anything else?
     
  11. craggy1982

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    Spring will ride fine and will be better if going off road but the air rides do pull better. I pull spring ride tankers for the most part now and when I do get the offchance of pulling an air ride tank the ride is a lot smoother but the spring suspension isn't going to be felt all that much. that being said if you had a spread you wouldn't really need a gauge for weight on trailer the tractor gauge would get you close enough. Ive never pulled hoppers but I did pull end dumps and even with them you could feel the dif between air ride and spring.
     
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