Drop trailer?

Discussion in 'Hazmat Trucking Forum' started by WesternPlains, May 30, 2023.

  1. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    Wanting to know legally.
    Got several different hazmat in totes. One is flammable.
    Got a good flyingJ. Big lot. They welcome dropping trailers. Very legitimate parking. They even check on trailers.
    Got home time there.
    Must I leave trailer connected to truck?
    Can I drop trailer? Bobtail to my house nearby.
     
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  3. Stringb8n

    Stringb8n Road Train Member

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    I would think that could be considered a drop yard. But don't quote me on that. I know, its not much help. If in doubt and can do so, just leave the truck hooked to it with the hazmat paperwork in the appropriate place in the cab.
     
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  4. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

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    I wouldn't trust an asphalt lot with dropping a loaded trailer for a whole weekend
     
  5. WesternPlains

    WesternPlains Road Train Member

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    It could be? There are many drivers living in the area. Many dropped trailers there. They ask that we drop out back as far as we can to the back. I’ve dropped there before. But not hazmat placarded.

    Keep that in mind. Maybe pick up a couple boards for hotter summer months. I forget. This place might be concrete back there.
     
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  6. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Only SOME HazMat (explosives) requires a Safe Haven. The other HazMat can be parked in areas that commonly accept trailer parking. Good practice would be to put some sort of enlarged "foot" under the sand pad or foot of the trailer landing gear if the trailer is heavy and parked on asphalt. Ashpalt gets soft in warm/hot weather and gravity is on the job. You cannot park any HazMat on the shoulder of roads if the trailers remain with 25 feet of the travel lane. HazMat cannot be within 25 feet of an open flame.

    The Safe Haven rule is FMCSA section 397.5, ‘Attendance and surveillance of motor vehicles.’


    What the rule covers (from FMCSA):

    Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 (explosive) material must be attended at all times by its driver or a qualified representative of the motor carrier that operates it.
    The rule do not apply to a motor vehicle which contains Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 material if all the following conditions exist:

    (1) The vehicle is located on the property of a motor carrier, on the property of a shipper or consignee of the explosives, in a safe haven, or, in the case of a vehicle containing 50 pounds or less of a Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 material, on a construction or survey site; and


    (2) The lawful bailee of the explosives is aware of the nature of the explosives the vehicle contains and has been instructed in the procedures which must be followed in emergencies; and

    (3) The vehicle is within the bailee’s unobstructed field of view or is located in a safe haven.

    (c) A motor vehicle which contains hazardous materials other than Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3, materials, and which is located on a public street or highway, or the shoulder of a public highway, must be attended by its driver. However, the vehicle need not be attended while its driver is performing duties which are incident and necessary to the driver’s duties as the operator of the vehicle.


    (d) For purposes of this section—

    (1) A motor vehicle is attended when the person in charge of the vehicle is on the vehicle, awake, and not in a sleeper berth, or is within 100 feet of the vehicle and has it within his/her unobstructed field of view.

    (2) A qualified representative of a motor carrier is a person who—


    (i) Has been designated by the carrier to attend the vehicle;

    (ii) Is aware of the nature of the hazardous materials contained in the vehicle he/she attends

    (iii) Has been instructed in the procedures he/she must follow in emergencies; and
(iv) Is authorized to move the vehicle and has the means and ability to do so.
    (3) A safe haven is an area specifically approved in writing by local, State, or Federal governmental authorities for the parking of unattended vehicles containing Division 1.1, 1.2, or 1.3 materials.

    (e) The rules in this section do not relieve the driver from any obligation imposed by law relating to the placing of warning devices when a motor vehicle is stopped on a public street or highway.
     
  7. kemosabi49

    kemosabi49 Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    Fmcsa 397.7. Hazmat trucks other than explosives, have to be at least five feet from the traveled part of the roadway. Not 15'.
     
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  8. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    My mistake. Thanks for the correction.
     
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  9. Mnmover99

    Mnmover99 Light Load Member

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    If you drop a trailer with Haz Mat the bills need to remain with the trailer so if something happens, the first responders can see what is inside the trailer.
     
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  10. roundhouse

    roundhouse Road Train Member

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    Be nice to be able to copy the bills and leave them in a sandwich bag or something with the trailer .

    a lot of trailers have a box on the front for papers
     
  11. dptrucker

    dptrucker Road Train Member

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    if trailer i am dropping dont have a box, i 'd leave b.o.l. in the trailer front placard.
    also in a bag since placard not waterproof
     
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