Driving non-CDL 26' box trucks across state lines

@Moose1958

 

I can't help on the registration and permitting. This is best handled by contacting these states and getting OFFICIAL information. From your information I don't know if you are CDL or Non CDL. As long as you stay inside the 150/100 Air mile circle you do not have to log. It makes NO matter how many state lines you cross. Just make sure you keep good time records. Good luck I am sorry I can't be of any further assistance. I just never got into this part of trucking. I would consider asking an admin to move this question to an owner operator forum because these people understand how to do this better then I.

Edited @L&M Ops the primary reason I did not want to give you any information is on account of EVERY reply all the way through post 7. Every one of those posts are pulling you a different way. This is why I said to contact the States and simply ask them.

 

Might be cheaper to contact a real lawyer instead of one who only practices law on a mandatory 30 minute DOT break.

 

Because the vehicles are for business use, you have a number of things to check out. By selling and shipping across state line, the company is now involved in interstate commerce and the transport of goods. And it changes a lot of rules. Even under 26001.

Talk to your insurance company. They may not cover your business or equipment outside the state.

The best people to talk to, would be the state trucking association. They should have a compliance department.
Also the states commercial vehicle division.

Under no circumstances should you admit to already doing this. This is because you are planning to grow your sales and service area, and it looks like this may be part of that planned growth. You ar looking for information and assistance in order to get ready.

The sales tax issue is for a different discussion.

 

You need an authority, you need to have the driver log their hours when the truck is going to be used formout of state.

This is interstate commerce,not intrastate, and you don't need a lawyer.

 

Also it's by weight.

I don't know what you can fit into 26 feet in terms of furniture, but if I had to guess you would be close to or over that 26K for class B CDL.

You are now interstate commerce and need drivers to have Medical cards tied to that license.

There are exemptions such as the 150 mile rule, but I think you are a growing business and will find that you are now a regional company serving several states. That changes a few things.

 

I used to be an Ops manager at store level for Value City Furniture. We had 5 trucks (26’) and delivered over state lines.

We kept standard driver files, did not log hours, but did have a daily limit (10 hours per day at the time, this was in 2005-2007).

Sales tax is collected for the state it is delivered in.

Other than that make sure your trucks are properly registered, insured, inspected and all the paperwork is in order etc. Even under 26,000 you still gotta get a DOT # and all that, I think the limit is like 10,000 lbs if you are going interstate for delivery.

 

Over 10K and out of state commercial means you are subject to HOS regulation, your drivers need a driver file with a medical qualification. No CDL, no drug testing. You'll need a written vehicle maintenance program, annual vehicle inspections, and yes, DOT number. DO NOT send your divers drive out of state before getting your drivers and vehicles qualified. If a driver goes out of state more than 8 days per 30, you'll need ELD's.

In our state, the State police commercial division is generally very helpful.

 

Unless there is a state specific exemption for no logging this isn't true.
I'm not saying they need an ELD, just that state lines don't matter.
If they get the 150 mile non-cdl radius time card exemption everyday he will never need an ELD. And in all reality it should make no difference in logging. Of course, depending on state....