Driving a Logging truck

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  1. Jubal3

    Jubal3 Heavy Load Member

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    No, I am NOT, EVER naming the company it's a tiny company and no, you are not likely to get a job here. They don't even advertise.

    Making the thread because there is bupkis here on Log-truck driving, which SHOULD be it's own sub-forum. (Mods, I hope you're listening).

    OK, so Full disclosure, I did 6 months OTR, then got a job driving fuel truck, but it's going to be a bit til my truck is ready and I was asked to drive logging truck for a week or two before I start my regular gig,

    Day 1 was awful. Sat with a guy who should never train ANYONE. Nice enough guy, but wow he missed virtually everything important.

    Logging is different from flat-bedding, but knowing how to use chains and binders is useful. We use wire strapping with chains on the end. Basically throw a 3' chain attatched to a wire over the top of the load. Not a big deal, but it's a technique to get it right.

    You don't have a "trailer." What you have is a tandem rear-end that, like your front end stakes, pivots with the truck. This means that your back axles basically follow your steers. You can make a turn with these babys pulling 50' logs that you could NEVER make in a standard trailer.

    The roads are sheer Hell. Really rough, even in the BEST of weather, and up in the PNW mountains, winter lasts from early Nov to late May. They are rough and will beat the Hell out of you, even in an air-ride.

    The run from the logging road to your cut (where you actually get loaded) is 5-10 MPH, 15 if you're gutsy. It's basically a VERY rough cut "kinda" graded road that bounces you all over and includes 12% grades over road that will shake your teeth out.

    You back up to a loader, who lifts off your rear-end, you pull up, he sets it down and you back up into the pintle-latch, set up your air and electrical lines, get the Hell out of the way and he loads you.

    These trucks have very good internal scales, and you'll be using the CB to tell him how much you can take.

    We're rated to 82000, 91,000 on the reservation. How you load depends on where the load is going. You get paid by the ton, so obviously you want to load as much as you think you can get away with.

    The loads average between $50 and $150 depending on the product and the mill location.

    Basically you can make $1500 a week if you run hard, REALLY fast, and know your way around the roads.

    Average pay is closer to 11-1200 per week. As always in trucking, how hard, fast and skilled you are will determine your pay.

    Upsides: You're home every day, you have every weekend off. If you're into really challenging your driving skills, this beats the Hell out of any OTR experience I can imagine. This is HARD driving, requires serious attention and concentration.

    Downsides. This is REALLY dangerous work. These roads are treacherous even dry. Even bobtailing, your truck slides all over the places on gravel, winding, poorly maintained logging roads. Loaded isn't a lot different. The truck acts like it's on ice, pretty much even in summer. In poorer weather, it gets even more squirelly. When your loading, at least your first load, it's pitch black and the only lighting is from your back working lights and the floods of the loader. If you get stupid and get under those logs, you are at risk of dying in an instant, because they DO fall from the loader. I've seen that happen. A 1000 pound tree falling on you? You're gonna die.

    My Experience: (all 2 days of it) OK, Full Disclosure, I hate this job. There is nothing about it that doesn't suck. I'm doing this because I'm the new guy at the company, my fuel truck isn't ready and they are desperate for help. I was asked to help out for a week or so and agreed to it because I want to be the guy that says "Hell Yes!" not the guy that won't do a job that's "beneath" him.

    Sleep at 6pm, wake up at 2AM, clock in at 4AM in BFE an hour from anywhere, drive 1.5 hours to the loader. Get loaded, drive like a maniac to the Mill, cause you get paid by the load. You need to make 3 loads a day to make that $1500, 4 on a crap run (quality of the wood you're getting loaded with, which you have no control over). Do it again another 2-4 times.
    Most guys make 3 loads a day, sometimes (If you're first in line (which they rotate) you get 4.

    Logging roads are like a maze. Because it's not just YOUR company that's logging there. There's 20 others. And they all make their own roads. Forget signs, GPS, Road Atlas, this is all about learning the roads in, to borrow a phrase: "Twisty passages, all alike."

    First day solo, I got lost, twice. First time was no big deal, a 10-minute delay. Found the cut, got loaded, NP. Then I set out for the mill. I asked the boss about the road TO that mill, got some bad information and spent an hour and a half of wasted time till I got the load to where it needed to be delivered. This cost me a load, and subsequently, 1/2 the pay for the day.

    Now guys LOVE this job. Physically, it's trivial, other than the bad roads. Seriously, NOTHING in logging remotely compares to tarping a load in icey conditions, or even throwing 60-lb chains. The driving is REALLY challenging. My company uses Petes with 15 gears and YES, you will use all of them. Early AM in the mountains IS beautiful. I LOVE seeing the stars up high, with no ambient light and no pollution.

    Totally different kind of driving than OTR, or even local, daily. High thrill factor (as in scaring the Hell out of you)
    High pay. $1500 a week is #### good money as a company driver. Home every night and weekends off. I can see the appeal. My nephew has been doing this for 17 years. I WISH I was 1/2 the driver he is. Because he's a #### good driver. Really impressive to ride with the guy, which I did for a day as a lark.

    Oh, and you'll never do a pre-trip or post-trip because the mechanics do that for you every day when you park. Fluids replenished, truck fueled, all you need to do is drive. Also no logs, because we're under the 150-mile local limit.

    That's all I got. The pros will have oodles to say on this if they respond. I'm a rookie. Just doing this for a week or so. But logging trucks SHOULD have their own forum. Because we deal with stuff NOONE else deals with. It's a specialized field.
     
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  3. BIF MALIBU

    BIF MALIBU Heavy Load Member

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    they got 2 wsp working full time year round stopping log trucks around here
     
  4. jerezxp7

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    Thanks I live in Oregon and have been curious about how the log trucks match up.
     
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Logging truck drivers are definitely a cut above your average steering wheel holder.
     
  6. Voyager1968

    Voyager1968 Road Train Member

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    Interesting read. Thanks for sharing!
     
  7. Lonesome

    Lonesome Mr. Sarcasm

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    Why not name the company, if they're "desperate for help?"
     
  8. Jubal3

    Jubal3 Heavy Load Member

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    Because in 2 weeks they'll have all the positions filled from word of mouth and people they know vouching for them. Yes, for the MOMEN}T, they're desperate. That won't last but another week, tops. They fill these jobs fast without any help from me. If you're in the Yakima area, and interested, PM me. Meanwhile, this is a small company very jealous of their privacy, so nope, I'm not going to name them.
     
    dca Thanks this.
  9. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Not to mention winter hauling season's almost here. I bet she'll get real busy real fast.
     
  10. Random Finger

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    My father in law drove a log truck for many years. He loved it.
     
  11. BIF MALIBU

    BIF MALIBU Heavy Load Member

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    smart.. you put your bosses name on the internet he might run you off
     
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