Driver's Time Record Question(s)

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by haulinasphalt, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

    45
    11
    Nov 23, 2010
    0
    Hi everyone. Please bear with me as I have only recently dusted off my trucker's hat and climbed back in the seat, and I'm very rusty with my rules of compliance. For the first time in 8 years since obtaining my license and running non-commercial box vans, I've climbed into the driver's seat of a commercial truck. I am well aware (mostly, I believe) of how to fill out the "big book" as I call it, known as the driver's daily log. Since I am a delivery driver that does not travel outside my 100 air-mile radius, I have been using my trusty and much smaller driver's time record book, along with a time sheet that details the following:

    Shift Start/End
    Hours Worked
    Hours Driving
    Longest Air Distance Traveled
    Total Mileage (each day)
    Total Driving Hours (each day)

    Question 1. Should I log my on/off duty hours in my driver's time record book in one hour increments, or should I log them in 15 minute increments as I would in my driver's daily log (i.e. 1 1/4 hours or 1.25 hours?)

    Question 2. In the box where you would record your last 7 days on duty, does the current day (today) qualify as one of the last 7 days? Or would I start recording for the previous day (yesterday?)

    Question 3. I saw a video where a driver would give a reason for having zero driving hours for one day (rain-out, truck in shop, no deliveries, etc.) Last week, my truck sat in the shop for an entire week for repairs. Should I notate a reason for having zero hours one day in my driver's time record book? Or will zero hours simply suffice?

    Again, I realize these questions may be silly to ask, and I ask forgiveness for my ignorance, as the driver's time record is an unfamiliar animal to me at this time. However, I do not really need an ELD at this time, as I'm currently a short-haul, part-time driver, and I really don't want to shell out the cash for a device I will only use for less than 8 hours, 3 or 4 driving days per week. Many thanks in advance for your help, everyone.
     
    austinmike Thanks this.
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. BrandonCDLdriver

    BrandonCDLdriver Road Train Member

    1,191
    1,462
    Sep 1, 2017
    0
    I thought you had to have ELD's now? Oh wait you're doing the 100 mile thing. If so it records it to the minute what you do. Yes the current day qualifies as one of the 7 days, it's the last 7 calendar days as in 24 hours x 7 ago. I would put a reason why you weren't driving just for kicks and giggles. It won't hurt. If the DOT officer would ask and you couldn't tell him you might have an issue. Not required though.
     
    Last edited: Jan 24, 2019
  4. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

    2,144
    5,075
    Oct 21, 2017
    Driving my recliner
    0
    You’re not required to have a “drivers time record”. No records of driving or on duty time, no time cards. Just drive the truck and do your deliveries. That’s for the office to deal with during an audit, or if the officer wants to call the office during an inspection he can. Not sure if the company has to hand any info over for a roadside inspection tho.

    Is this “drivers time record” somthing the company is requiring or something you are doing on your own?

    If you’re doing it on your own, be careful. The less records you create the safer you are.
     
    Rideandrepair Thanks this.
  5. x1Heavy

    x1Heavy Road Train Member

    34,017
    42,129
    Mar 5, 2016
    White County, Arkansas
    0
    When you are operating inside a magic bubble as defined by the 150 mile rule (172.1 statue miles) you log nothing. There is nothing to log, you are unlimited in hours. You can work 168 weekly hours driving and on duty inside that magic space with no accounting forever and ever.

    It's when you drive a mile OUTSIDE of that bubble is when you have to get out the logging either paper or ELD.

    Now. If there is a company employing you on a time clock you punch each day coming and going, Thats for them. You will get your pay from that.
     
    Rideandrepair Thanks this.
  6. BrandonCDLdriver

    BrandonCDLdriver Road Train Member

    1,191
    1,462
    Sep 1, 2017
    0
    This is NOT correct. You absolutely have to log your on duty time.

    Hours of Service: The 100/150 Air Mile Exemptions

     
  7. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

    45
    11
    Nov 23, 2010
    0
    Thanks for your help, guys. My company is kind of a Mom n' Pop operation that has little to no experience with the inner workings of motor carrier operations. I'm currently one of two CDL drivers companywide, if that tells you anything. I'm a salary paid "salesman" with a fixed five-day on, two-day off schedule, whom has been given the responsibility of handling my own detailed time cards, as legally required. Never really having a clear answer before this thread, I started creating my own redundant paper trail of my daily duties, should (God forbid) the big "A" ever come into factor. I do file all my time cards at my terminal and carry my last week's time card with me as well. It may be overkill, but I don't want to have a shred of a doubt that I'm compliant. If I am to ditch the books and just keep a time card as a short-haul CDL driver, that would make my life that much easier.
     
    Rideandrepair Thanks this.
  8. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

    45
    11
    Nov 23, 2010
    0
    Thanks for your help, Brandon. Just saw your thread, and I thought that was the case myself. Hence, the books and the extremely detailed time card I carry with me on the road.
     
  9. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

    22,116
    113,354
    Dec 18, 2011
    Michigan
    0
    Don't you keep a sales log?
     
    Rideandrepair Thanks this.
  10. haulinasphalt

    haulinasphalt Bobtail Member

    45
    11
    Nov 23, 2010
    0
    Well, I use the term "salesman" very loosely, as when I'm not in my rig, I'm at the counter of our warehouse for inside sales. I should've maybe left that part out. However, we do keep signed delivery tickets (not a formal BOL) on-site, should I ever need proof of delivery, or maybe even proof of duties.
     
    Rideandrepair Thanks this.
  11. GreenPete359

    GreenPete359 Road Train Member

    2,144
    5,075
    Oct 21, 2017
    Driving my recliner
    0
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.