DPF delete, will it affect who you can haul for?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by belome, Aug 2, 2018.

  1. roadtech

    roadtech Medium Load Member

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    There are thousands of deleted trucks out there. Many owner operators and some smaller companies with out of warranty 2008 to 20?? Have deleted their trucks or would have went bankrupt with emmisions related repairs or engine failures. That being said I've never heard of a company check emissions components,just DOT related safety items. I know they (DEP and certain mobile test units in NJ )"snap test " trucks (put the probe in the exhaust and have you floor the pedal ) randomly on the highway during random DOT checks in NJ and NY,I've had it done to me. A deleted truck will not pass a snap test (I've had people tell me they have ,but I'm skeptical)
    And will "roll coal " when floored,a dead giveaway on the highway,especially with a "clean idle "sticker on the side.
    I've been told when deletes are done right you can't tell by plugging in a computer ,when they delete them they make sure all the sensors are good,throwing no codes and turn all emmisions related sensors "off" so they dont come on when they disable all the emmisions related hardware.the only dead giveaway is when they block off the EGR valve ,you can see that right away when you look at a deleted engine.As far as dealers working on them ,I don't know,but most independent shops could care less
    They are not an accomplice to a crime if they didn't do the delete them selves,so Most don't care deleted trucks are very common,so I've been told.
     
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  3. mc8541ss

    mc8541ss Road Train Member

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    Many many deleted trucks. Sounds like the ones in the article were deleting all the company trucks. If I had to buy one of those horrible trucks it would be deleted before I took the first trip in it.
     
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  4. lilillill

    lilillill Sarcasm... it's not just for breakfast

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  5. Freddy57

    Freddy57 Road Train Member

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    I was at Freightliner Joplin a couple of months ago when a guy brought his deleted truck in for engine work. They flashed his ECM and handed him an estimate for over 11k to get his truck running again. if you do the deletes, you have to get independent shops to do your engine work.
     
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  6. AModelCat

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    The amount of layers and protections they build into equipment now makes it very hard to delete them. All the computers talk to each other and know what info is being put on the datalink. All you'd need to do is update just 1 computer not related to the emissions and boom, you're going to have to put all that crap back on again if you want to use your $400k machine.
     
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  7. Antinomian

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    The Landstar inspection doesn't have anything to do with emissions. It's only a safety inspection and is basically just a slightly more strict DOT inspection. I don't know anything about New England checking for DPF deletes, but your friend definitely needs to avoid California. He'll be a broke rebel if he doesn't.
     
  8. Mattflat362

    Mattflat362 Road Train Member

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    I have been a computer tech for like 25 years now and I can't even imagine how someone that owns a deleted truck would not be 100% all over that truck as far as who touches it!! Duh!!!
     
  9. mover man

    mover man Road Train Member

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    Wow auto correct sucks. Just read my own post. If I didnt no what it said, I might not be able to figure it out. Gotta remember to proof read.
     
  10. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    400k? All the computers talk to each other yes, but you get a tuner that has the necessary tune to tell them all to shut up itll be fine and you're good to go.
     
  11. AModelCat

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    I went a bit off the topic of trucks into the off road heavy equipment since I know it best. But yes its true. Manufacturers are getting smart with this kind of stuff.
     
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