DOT drug screen

Discussion in 'Trucker Legal Advice' started by Dave 4681, Jun 30, 2023.

  1. Dave 4681

    Dave 4681 Bobtail Member

    4
    0
    Jun 30, 2023
    0
    Ok here's what happened to me. I received paperwork to get pre employment drug screen. I went to testing center. It was 20 minutes before closing. I sat there for 5 minutes and my stomach said I needed restroom now. Do I looked around room and there was no restroom. I went out in hallway to find one with no luck. So I went nextdoor to hospital and found one there. When I returned to testing center it was closed. So I went back Monday and they said they closed it out and would have to call company to reschedule. I then received email from clearinghouse stating I have violation for refusing drug test.
    My question is. Shouldn't a testing center be required a public restroom since you're not allowed to leave property. And does anyone think there's a lawsuit I could file on testing center.
    Thanks for your advice.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

    3,242
    5,937
    Nov 16, 2013
    Baltimore, Maryland
    0
    @Moose1958
     
  4. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

    3,242
    5,937
    Nov 16, 2013
    Baltimore, Maryland
    0
    Did you tell the staff you NEEDED to use the restroom?
     
  5. slim shady

    slim shady Road Train Member

    3,468
    14,689
    Sep 14, 2011
    Chicago, Il.
    0
    I'm sure you could have asked to use Their restroom. See this story alot on here good luck. Someone will be around soon to advise you
     
    homeskillet Thanks this.
  6. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,088
    33,170
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    First I am tagging @brian991219 . OK lets discuss what the regulations say about pre-employment testing. I will start with what 40.191(a)(2) says. This regulation applies to all US DOT-regulated industries, Motor Carriers as well as Railroads.

    Fail to remain at the testing site until the testing process is complete. Provided that an employee who leaves the collection site before the testing process commences (see § 40.63(c) or § 40.72(e), as applicable) for a pre-employment test is not deemed to have refused to test. The collector is not required to inform an employee that the failure to remain at the collection site is a refusal. If an employee leaves prior to the completion of the testing process, per § 40.355(i) the employer must decide whether the employee's actions constitute a refusal;

    Here is the problem, and why you are in refusal. LOOK very carefully at the way this is worded. "Provided that an employee who leaves the collection site before the testing process commences" If you got a letter most likely the chain of custody form was started. I am sorry to inform you this means the testing process started and you basically violated the above section. People sometimes listen to truck stop attorneys and are not fully knowledgeable about part 40. I know you were in a bad situation, but the rules don't allow any margins here. The chain of custody form has to be handled by the rules set forth in 40.191(d). They don't just throw them away.

    There are 2 things you NEVER do if you work in any part of the US Transportation system when it comes to drug testing. You NEVER under any circumstances leave the testing area once the chain of custody form has been started and last, you NEVER walk out of the secure testing area once established during orientation.

    I am really sorry this has happened to you. The USDOT has become almost Nazilike these days.

     
    Last edited: Jul 1, 2023
    Eddiec and Blagoje Thank this.
  7. Dave 4681

    Dave 4681 Bobtail Member

    4
    0
    Jun 30, 2023
    0
     
  8. Dave 4681

    Dave 4681 Bobtail Member

    4
    0
    Jun 30, 2023
    0
    Well I guess they lost another 15 year driver
     
  9. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,088
    33,170
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    Yes, and you are disqualified from operating a CDL-required CMV until you finish the SAP return to duty process.
     
    Opus Thanks this.
  10. Dave 4681

    Dave 4681 Bobtail Member

    4
    0
    Jun 30, 2023
    0
    What's the point of doing SAP if most companies won't hire Sap driver and stays on your record for 5 years. The way I read it is the violation falls of after 5 years
     
  11. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

    15,088
    33,170
    Dec 17, 2010
    Williesburg, Virignia
    0
    @brian991219 will give you a better answer. I'm out of the loop with most recent changes.
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.