"Don't push in the clutch all the way"

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  1. Bnthere

    Bnthere Bobtail Member

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    This was my first day of class. I spent almost 3 hours in the truck with my instructor one on one. After explaining all of the dashboard goodies, and starting procedure he moved on to shifting. This is an Eaton Fuller 10 speed. He explained that to shift one only needs to depress the clutch slightly and not completely. The only time to fully depress it is at a dead stop before starting out again To me shifting is like breathing but now I have to learn to hold my breath. Why do they even make clutches that don't need to be put to the floorboard? Anyway after an hour of practice in a large dirt lot we hit the road. Every time I shifted I wanted to (and often did) shove that clutch in. The gears would grind until I got it right which wasn't too often I'm sorry to say. When we were done he said I did ok but to work on the shift pattern so I didn't get lost when it came time to shift. Is there any way other than lots of practice to break this old habit? It is really unnatural to have to shift that way. I am enjoying learning but this is an unexpected hurdle..Thanks
     
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  3. PackRatTDI

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    Pushing it all the way in engages the clutch brake which stops the gears from spinning inside the transmission. You need that for stopping and starting. Not so much when shifting.
     
  4. War Wagon

    War Wagon Light Load Member

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    Double clutching like that usually ends after school when you start floating. But yes do not depress all the way unless stopped. Pressing the clutch all the way applies the clutch brake which is bad while moving and trying to shift. Just a quick jab to take it out of gear and another quick jab to pull it into the next gear. Watch your speed and rpms and don't rev it hard. It's a diesel not a race car. One suggestion I have is to set your seat right. Set it so with your leg extended you can't put the clutch all the way down unless you point your foot down too.
     
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  5. S M D

    S M D Road Train Member

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    Normally you would only have to push it until it's side by side with the break pedal. 1/4 way or so
     
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  6. GarlicBreadBandit

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    You can ask your trainer if he will teach you to float your gears (meaning shift without using the clutch at all). Will he teach you to do that?
     
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  7. Pumpkin Oval Head

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    Adjust the seat so you have to really reach to put the clutch to the floor...that way you can do a full leg extension and the clutch does not go to the floor. If you need to use the brake clutch, just slide ahead on the seat a little so you can push it to the floor. Usually at a light or a stop sign you are shifting into your start up gear before you come to complete stop, so you should not need the brake clutch then.
     
  8. Scuba Steve

    Scuba Steve Light Load Member

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    You'll get the feel for how a semi truck shifts vs how a manual in a car shifts, personally I only use the clutch when starting from a stop and then I float the gears for each shift and downshift, but schools and some companies want you to double clutch when shifting, just tell yourself this with each shift, am I going to make more work for myself by pressing the clutch all the way to the floor or am I going to sit back and relax with only pressing the clutch about a quarter down with each shift, you'll get the hang of it, practice practice and most importantly, stay calm and concentrate on what your doing. Good luck to you!!
     
  9. OlChev

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    Also in training it's important to master the double clutch becouse in some states you are required to double clutch to pass the skills test
     
  10. thelushlarry

    thelushlarry Road Train Member

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    :eek:The clutch was only put there so you would have a foot rest!
     
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