If I drive my own personal vehicle during my off hours for "gig jobs" like Grubhub, Uber Eats, Amazon Flex, Doordash, etc... do these hours count towards how many hours a week I can drive for/with my CDL?
I was looking at taking a job with my new CDL license, and planning on continuing to do part-time gig work to offset the low wages I would make with my new CDL, through this extra income. I would do this gig work driving my own personal car, in my off hours from the CDL job. My potential new boss said that I have to report any driving hours during my off time to him. He said that these outside hours from the job count towards how many hours I can drive each week. That I won't be able to put in so many hours doing the gig work in my off time from the job. That these additional hours impacts them and the number of hours I can drive with my CDL for them. They are frowning upon any additional outside driving work, even if it's non-CDL related, if I take the job with them.
Is this true?
Does non-CDL hours count towards my driving hours for my CDL?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Michael-CO, Jul 19, 2022.
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It's true, but I've never know anyone that reported it. Technically, if you mow your mothers lawn and she pays you $10.00 then you're supposed to report it. I've known driver that did landscaping and cutting firewood to sell and didn't report it. They did that for years.
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And they care, especially since it came from their safety officer. Because if I was to get into an accident with one of their trucks, especially tired, then they are liable and that's not a risk they want to take. I guess one too many lawsuits has them caring about how many hours I put in outside their job.
If I don't report it to them, then I am not living honest, and that's a problem for me. I can't live my life like that even if others do. So now I just feel screwed and had no idea about this before coming into this field and was counting on that extra income for a while. I am actually trading off losing money and making less money now, with the hopes of making more money later, which I don't even know how realistic it is. I am not sure I can live on these wages as a new CDL without this additional income now. This sucks. -
Essentially all trucking related activities, paid or unpaid counts against your 70. All paid non-trucking activities also counts against your 70.
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The problem comes in if you are involved in an injury accident, your fault or not. Lawyers will want to discover every thing you had done the days prior. If something is found that contradicts any CDL rules, they will do everything in their ability to fry you. Think carefully if what you are doing could impact your future freedom or finances.
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This question came up in another thread a short time ago. Here is the problem. Look, EVEN if you don't hold a CDL if you are driving a CMV (10,001+ Rated Weight) you have max weekly hours. If your company does not operate 7 days a week that max is 60 hours a week. The OP has not said how many hours are spent on those side jobs and how many days a week this is done. In fact, the OP may be violating the 60 hours rule with his current work schedule.
The previous comment is 100% right. Nothing wrong with making extra money, just make sure you are complying with the law. Remember, that 60 hours can get chewed up quicker than you think. Even if you are operating on a 70-hour week. It is easier than you think to bust that weekly hour limit.Bean Jr. Thanks this. -
I did say in OP that they were in my personal vehicle doing side gigs (doordash, Uber Eats, Grubhub, Amazon Flex for those doing those types of things use the term "gigs" for that type of work). My personal vehicle isn't rated as a CMV (10,001+ Rated Weight).
I also spoke with my new employer this morning as I just accepted a job. I told him that I would only do this for another few weekends until I get caught up with a normal paycheck from them after holding one back, and can work that into my budget without having to work the weekends in my side gigs.
There is plenty of OT on this job, and that equals to more than what I would make in those side gigs at a per-hour rate. In fact, I would not only make more per hour, but I don't have to spend so much money on gas anymore in those side gigs which actually works out to a lot more.
I currently spend about $300-$400 in fuel alone doing that other stuff full-time and aim for a $30+ per hour rate doing those side gigs. I can also cut back on my insurance rates since I don't need such high coverage anymore, as well as what I save in vehicle maintenance and wear and tear costs as well. So I am pretty sure without doing full due diligence on it, I would make more just doing OT with them than what I can currently make. I just need to make it work for the next 2-4 weeks and then I can probably pull away and just work for this company.
Maybe it doesn't suck as much as I initially thought once I see the math. Maybe I just need to trust God more.Last edited: Jul 20, 2022
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Just remember, you can't work 7 days a week without being careful. If you are not down for enough time to get the reset, by the 8th day you might be in serious trouble with those hours. Even OTR truckers have to either take time off to get a reset or run recap. In your situation, I don't think you can run recap.
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ANY JOB THAT PAYS COUNTS AGAINST YOUR 70.
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