Does an owner operator have to do duplicate logs?

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  1. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    Normally there are two copies one for you and one for the carrier. If you are the carrier do you need to do duplicates?
     
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  3. Ribeye

    Ribeye Light Load Member

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    No, I don't do it. Never had a problem in 11 years as independent, but I can always say I make copies later if needed or asked about.
    Also, I created log page from others as template, and copy/print em out. Way cheaper than buying them. I use 8x11" paper per log, I still have the post-trip insp. on mine, but I guess that's no longer required. You could do two logs per page really. Its cheap.
     
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  4. Bdog

    Bdog Road Train Member

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    That is what I was thinking. Print my own with preprinted company name and address and quit fooling with those darn carbon sheets.
     
  5. Ribeye

    Ribeye Light Load Member

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    Ya. Unless you have a driver in your truck who would need to get the logs into terminal, what is it, by 13 days. I go home every 10-20 days usually, and just file them then. And paper is like .04-.05 cents a page. Paper has really gone up the last couple years, but I'm a penny miser. Take care.
     
  6. snowwy

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    Use a laptop with logging software such as Driver Daily Logs or Eclipse or Trucklogger. And a printer.

    They're already programmed with different formats that standard carriers already use. No templates needed.

    Or, if your savy, there are free apps for cell phones and tablets. Along with a wireless printer. You can print your logs for your phone or tablet. But, you do need mobile hotspot, as that acts as the wireless router.
     
  7. Ridgeline

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    Yes, because you a driver need to keep a copy going 7days out and the carrier needs to keep a copy I think for a couple years.

    What if you get audited while you are on the road?

    Where are those carrier copies?
     
  8. MidWest_MacDaddy

    MidWest_MacDaddy Road Train Member

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    But why can't those be one in the same? Keep the "driver copy" in the truck for those 7 days, then that driver copy becomes the "carrier copy" to archive once you are back home?
     
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  9. Bdog

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    I am the carrier. I don't have an official office with a secretary it is just me and a desk in a room in my house. There is no one there to audit when I am on the road.

    I figured keep my logs for the trips I take with me in the truck until I get home and then file them when I get back - making sure of course that when I leave again I have the seven day requirement of logs with me.
     
  10. rogueunh

    rogueunh Road Train Member

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    Lol exactly. The "7 day" log turns into the log that is filed once it's placed into the file.
     
  11. not4hire

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    "Technically", you do need duplicate copies; and if anyone asks, that's what you do. In practise, one copy is good. For FMCSA purposes:
    • Driver must keep logs for seven days
    • Carrier must keep logs for six months
    Your tax accountant may recommend keeping logs for a longer period, but they are not required longer than stated above for an FMCSA/DOT audit/inspection.

    No hotspot required for phone/tablet/laptop to wireless printer connection on current devices. Direct device-to-device works on every wireless printer I have ever used.

    I printed my own paper logs... one copy. I then emailed the logs to the company.
     
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