document pre-trip inspection for 100 mile air radius rule??

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Granny, May 27, 2011.

  1. Granny

    Granny Bobtail Member

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    Pre-trip inspection questions
    (1) Are pre trip inspections required for trucks less than 25999 GVMW
    (2) Do pre-trip inspections require formal written documentaion
    (3) Are pre-trip inspections required for "around town delivery trucks"
    if so, is once every 8 hr shift enough?

    I read that pretrip inspection do not have to be documented.

    Also what is a post trip inspection and when is it required?
    Thanks
     
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  3. Beer Runner

    Beer Runner Medium Load Member

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    You should always do a pre trip no matter what. It is also a good idea to do one on your car before you head out. The reasons are many.

    Yes they do. If DOT get's a hold of you and you didn't document the pre trip you will pay for it.
     
  4. AXE

    AXE Road Train Member

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    Post trip is the same as a pre trip....just after the trip is done.
     
  5. Prairie Boy

    Prairie Boy Road Train Member

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    Some jurisdictions don't require a Post Trip.
     
  6. AXE

    AXE Road Train Member

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    She asked what one was...don't see where I said it was required...
     
  7. ChromeDome

    ChromeDome Road Train Member

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    Actually in the regs it is rather odd.
    Since all it says for pretrip is that you have to read over the prior days inspection and sign off on it.
    Does not say you have to do both. I prefer to do a full post trip and then a quick pretrip.
    Since if I have any issues that I find on the post trip it will give me a chance to get them fixed before it is time to roll again.
    My company however says I have to do a 15 min pretrip and at least 5 min for post.

    But for the first posters question. Yes, you have to do a daily inspection and you have to fill out and sign the inspection form. Even if you are under the 100 air mile.
    All the 100 mile exemption is for is logs. And this is because if you fall under this your hours must be documented by the company. You cannot work more than 12 hours a day. And you must be off 1 day a week.

    I just read your post again.
    If this is a commercial truck. Then you have to have a written inspection report done every day. I have never heard read otherwise anywhere. In this case the post trip is most important for each driver to do. Then the driver coming in for his shift will need to review that and sign that he read it. Then when his shift is done he needs to do one.
    Any safety issue that is noted on the inspection needs to be fixed. Then once fixed signed off by the mechanic or driver that fixes it.
     
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  8. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    Being an intrastate operation 396.11 does not apply. Alabama mirrors Federal Law except for an exemption for under 26,001


    (5) A commercial motor vehicle operated in intrastate commerce which does not equal or exceed 26,001 pounds, except a motor vehicle, regardless of weight, which is designed or used to transport 16 or more passengers, including the driver, or which is used in the transportation of hazardous materials and required to be placarded pursuant to 49 C.F.R. Part 172, Subpart F, shall be exempt from the federal motor carrier regulations otherwise made applicable in this state pursuant to subsection (a). For purposes of this subdivision, "commercial motor vehicle" means a commercial motor vehicle as defined in 49 C.F.R. §390.5.


    So as long as you do not cross any state line and you do not haul 16 passengers or haz-mat you are exempt from 396.11.
     
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  9. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    My understanding & beleif is:
    -For commercial vehicles-

    (1) Yes
    (2) Yes
    (3) Yes & yes, one pre-trip & one post trip every shift PER EACH TRUCK. If you change trucks at any time, you must complete a written pre & post trip on every vehicle you operate. So, if you start the day in a truck & it breaks down, you also do a pre & post trip inspection on the 2nd truck you operate also.

    A post trip & pretrip are inspections done physicly & visually on your vehicle to make sure that it is, above all else safe to operate but, compliant with DOT rule & regs. Here in La you can find a complete check list in the study guide to apply for a CDL. There is also a check list in the FMCSA hand book. A PRE-trip is done prior to operating the vehicle at the begining of your day/shift. A POST trip is done at the end of the day/shift.
     
  10. Tazz

    Tazz Road Train Member

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    If they are intrastate none of that applies until 26001 is exceeded. Now should they be doing pre-trips? Hell I pretrip my Dodge before going anywhere:biggrin_25523:
     
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  11. Granny

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    Since we are intrastate in Alabama looks like we are exempt from 396.11 While we are exempt it is still a good idea to do the pre&post trip inspection,
    but we just dont have to have it in writing and/or file.

    On the rare occasion we fail to meet the provision of the 100 mile rule.....Do we need to go back and verify the pre trip in writing for the last 7 days?
     
    Last edited: May 31, 2011
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