Do Springs and/or Quick Disconnects Impact Antenna Performance?

Discussion in 'CB Radio Forum' started by The Gryphon, Dec 13, 2012.

  1. The Gryphon

    The Gryphon Heavy Load Member

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    One more question about antennas etc.

    Does the use of springs and/or those Quick Disconnects have any impact on antenna performance?

    I'm going to a single Wilson 2000 and was thinking of using a spring and one of those Quick Disconnects to allow me to quickly remove the antenna before going into our company truck wash.

    I wasn't too worried about running the fiberglass sticks through the truck wash, but don't want my new antennas (the Wilson 2000 for my CB, or the one that I'm mounting on the passenger side for my Wilson Sleek cell phone booster) messed up.

    Since both the springs and quick disconnects are installed between the antenna and the antenna mount, I wonder if there are any negative effects on the antennas' performance.

    Thanks, as always, for all your input.
     
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  3. handlebar

    handlebar Heavy Load Member

    Yup, both add length to the antenna, so an equivalent length has to be removed from the tunable part of the antenna to make up for it; otherwise, the antenna will have changed its resonant point to a much lower frequency.
    Also, if the QD you choose is the kind with a spring loaded contact that gets compressed as you slide the two parts together before engaging the bayonet lock, you'll probably find that moisture and other environmental crud degrades the part that stays on the vehicle pretty quickly when the mast is disconnected. If you keep an eye on the ones that are driving around in current service, you'll probably see a lot of them have some sort of braid jumper that has been kludged onto them around the outside to restore the electrical connection that's been lost. You might be able to prevent that degradation by some combination of preventive applications of contact preserver, like some of the Caig Labs goodies, or slipping a weatherproof cap on the part that stays on the vehicle when you uncouple the mast.
    But plan on having to shorten the mast or the stinger by a length about equal to whatever you add, whether spring, QD, or the total of both.
    BTW, the springs that are actually made for antennas, rather than for just shock springs for things like plow end markers, will have a shorting braid inside the windings, to make sure the electrical length stays uniformly the same as the relaxed length of the spring regardless of any flexing that it does while in use. If, after some time of driving on roads that have a lot of salt to treat ice/snow/slush, the braid finally degrades to where it breaks, you'll start to see the SWR jumping all over the place as your antenna whips around and flexes the coil. But until the braid parts, it should hold pretty steady under ever fairly extreme excursions.
    Hope that wasn't too wordy (yet again....) ;)
    73
     
  4. The Gryphon

    The Gryphon Heavy Load Member

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    Not too wordy at all!

    I figured that the additional length of the additional components would have to be considered/adjusted for, etc.

    My main concern was the addition of the additional "breaks" in the connections that are part of the components. In other words, would those additional contact points cause the signal to degrade any.

    The springs will be those designed for antenna use and the quick disconnects are designed so as to keep as much of the weather out and I'll keep them sprayed with AMSOIL MP just in case.

    Thanks again!!
     
  5. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    Use a wrench and just unscrew it. takes 5 seconds maybe.
     
  6. The Gryphon

    The Gryphon Heavy Load Member

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    Maybe I'm too lazy to get a wrench out of the sidebox every time I need to remove it. :)
     
  7. jessejamesdallas

    jessejamesdallas Road Train Member

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    only problem I have ran into using quick disconnects, is some of them wobble around allot with heaver antenna's and could bounce off. Hank Breedlove Machine shop makes about the best quick disconnects you'll find, but they are "pricey"...
     
  8. Rat

    Rat Road Train Member

    If you didn't have problems with broken fiberglass antennas in the truck wash then you won't have any issues with the Wilson in the truck wash. It will take it much better then a fiberglass would.
     
  9. PSUMoose

    PSUMoose Medium Load Member

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    So I have a simular question. I put on 5' tuneable's and tuned it in with the alan wrench and adjustments on the CB its self. I then was talking to another driver who said I would have problems with the antenas breaking, because they are so long. so I picked up some springs and retuned it. It worked great in the parking lot, but out on the road it was very staticy, and the antenas were wacking the side of the truck and I was worried about it hurting the wires in the antena and I do not want to scratch my paint. Any thoughts?
     
  10. mike5511

    mike5511 Road Train Member

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    I haven't ever found that using springs, except on a 102" whip, worked out very well. I don't know what kind of 5 footers you have, but I use the Francis 5x5 and a 5ft skipshooter without having any problems with them breaking, unless you whack them on something.
     
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