Difference between 10speed vs super10
Discussion in 'Trucks [ Eighteen Wheelers ]' started by Duliz, Apr 8, 2008.
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A normal 10 speed, which is what the FRO series is, is a direct trans. That means that you have to shift the stick for each gear and you have a range selector switch. Super 10 does not have a range selector switch on the lever, it changes range automatically when you move the shift lever in neutral from side to side, also you only shift the stick 5 times and split each gear, its easier. So basically its like driving a 5 speed with a splitter for each gear, i like them compared to a direct 10, only complain is it shifts kinda slow, but the jake can help with that. They seem to last as well as long as not abused.
Also the FRO series is a metric eaton trans and i heard of them costing more than a dang RTLO20918B 18 speed to replace, i had a freind with one and when it took a crap the cheapest he found was $5K!!!!Dealers ask over $7k for them. I got a RTLO18718B 18 speed for my old Pete for $3200 exchanged!Cetane+ Thanks this. -
The Super 10 lasts? Well okay... Maybe these days it's been built better. 15yrs ago I worked in a heavy truck shop and we all decided there was little "Super" about a Super 10. I don't like using one any more than I wanted to tear one down either, but that's me. Many people say once you get used to them things are pretty easy. And they aren't the worst thing out there imo.
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Freinds old werner pete has over a million on his and its still going. He is also putting 624hp to the wheels through it. As long as they are not abused they last IMO.
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i ran a super 10 for 7 years,wish i had another one
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Thank you guys for answering my question. I love this board. Since I already asked about the 10 speed tranny I may as well clear all my doubts: I was looking at the truckpaper and found several trucks that say transmission:10 speed, OverDrive: YES and some other 10 speeds w/ a NO for OverDrive. Are the 10 speeds with overdrive more fuel efficient? or what exactly is the difference? Is the overdrive really needed or is it more like a splitter???
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Over drive just means you have "taller" gears, meaning you will have more top end in the truck, top speed. Non overdrive transmissions will suck up more fuel, especially with todays high torque engines. Lets say a OD 10 speed at 65 you will cruise around 1400rpm, depending on rear ends, and a non OD 10 speed at 65 you might be turning 1600-1700 depending on the rears. 99% of your newer trucks have a overdrive transmission.
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Thank you guys. I really appreciate all the great info.
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there is both diret drive 10's and overdrive 10's but I will tell you that in my experience you can't count on what you read on the truck paper as alot of times they just click something not knowing. if it is a ten speed and has a 2.70 rear gear ratio then it's a direct drive ten speed. otherwise if is it a 3.55 or 3.70 etc it is an overdrive tranny. Actually if you can find a direct drive 10 with a 2.something rear gear it is stronger then the overdrive setup. a direct ten is BULLITPROOF, I hate driving tens but you can't kill it. ALmost all overdrive tranies will have a weaker overdrive gear.
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Your telling me MM. I just bought my rig out of truckpaper and it said auto shift, turns out it was an ultrashift.... no clutch pedal.... I think I will manage!
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