Determining insurance value?

Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Hanadarko, Jun 22, 2010.

  1. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Guys...How can I determine a USED trucks' value for insurance purposes?

    I setup insurance with Progressive and when she asked me the rig's value, I simply gave her what I paid for it. But since I got a really good deal, I think I might have it potentially UNDERinsured.

    We had a few tornadoes here in WI last night and it showed cars/SUVs flipped over. I'm not sure if wind could toss my rig on it's side, but sitting in the driveway, I suppose anything is possible.

    So how/where do I figure out a fair value for insurance reasons?

    1999 KW W900B
    1.1 million miles
    DD Series 60

    as far as condition goes, I would say better than GOOD but a bit off from EXCELLENT.

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  3. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    If the truck is ever totaled, they are only going to pay market value, or slightly less. I claim my truck at a lesser value than what I would sell it for. In other words, if you hypotheticaly had that KW valued at $40,000 (doubt you do), you wont get 40 out of it from the ins co. They will give you market value, or what you valued it at, whichever is less.
     
  4. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Exactly. I need to determine market value. I think it might be higher than what I paid and insured at...If that's the case, then I did get a good deal.

    I called Progressive. All of the web sites they offered for this information all charge outrageous prices....

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  5. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    I would go to truckpaper dotcom and research all the 99 W900s that are on par with yours. I would guess you are somewhere in the 20-25k range. Or call Taylor and martin and feel em out. Try truckpaper first, you should easily get a feel for the value.
     
  6. Allow Me.

    Allow Me. Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

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    An 11 year old KW with 1.1 mil ain't nowhere near worth 25K.
     
  7. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    NS. Probably closer to 15 but I didnt want to insult the guy. The price he paid is irrelevent as long as he knows how the game is played. An insurance co will glad let you pay a premium of 100k on a truck with a real value or 50k, but if he wrecks it he'll only get the 50.. This 99 W900 may also just had a $15,000 inframe done, but unless that is addressed in the policy, the ins co wont care.
     
  8. JCTruckIns

    JCTruckIns Bobtail Member

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    All of the above are true. Since I am an agent, I have to deal with this all of the time. However there are companies out there with "Cost New" Physical Damage policies instead of "Stated Amount" like you have with Progressive. These companies are a little more kind.

    I would find a few online and go from there. When Progressive comes in, this is exactly what they do I've been told by people that have claims. They find comparable vehicles and do not take into account anything you have done to or for the truck.

    Not all companies are like this though.
     
  9. bullhaulerswife

    bullhaulerswife Forum Leader/Admin Staff Member Administrator

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    You count the truck, plus the in-frame, which is an asset on your taxes, and also depreciate, then the value rises. The problem is, you must make sure that the insurance company will insure your "assets" on the truck. Its a few extra dollars, but well worth it when you have a rebuilt motor, or have added an APU to an older truck. :biggrin_255:
     
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  10. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    Yes maam. The inframe does entail a different IRS depreciation schedule, since it prolongs the truck life. I wasnt certain of how the insurance co would handle the inframe though if a guy didnt inform them of this work. Thanks!
     
  11. Hanadarko

    Hanadarko Independent Owner/Operator

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    Well I think the truck is worth at least $5-8k more than I paid for it, based on what I have 'seen' out there. I just need some sort of verification....to justify the additional costs. To add $5k more value jumps my insurance 20%.....

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    <rant>
    By the way, it was SO MUCH fun registering the rig this week here in WI. Guess what? - base plates went up 30% for 2010! - Only Heavy Trucks. Not cars of course....Stick it to the trucker. "HE has the money"

    Naturally our beloved Gov. "Double Down Diamond Jim" keeps raiding the dam fund. If they used it as it was intended for, I might not be so pi$$ed about it....
    </rant>

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