DD15, snapped exhaust manifold bolts

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  1. MTMAUS

    MTMAUS Light Load Member

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    Hey, I have a DD15 with two bolts that are snapped on the exhaust manifold.

    They are the two middle bolts at the top. It's blowing a bit of soot and squeeling a bit. It's been like it for a while wasn't squeeling too much and wasn't that bad, but it's getting worse I reckon. I keep washing it all down, but I am concerned it might wreck something else

    My questions are.

    Do I have any chance of getting the bolts drilled out and replaced with everything still attached, I reckon I would be close to getting good access with a drill if I remove the EGR valve.

    If I have to take it all off, does the turbo etc all need to come off? I am guessing it's almost everything?

    How many hours do you think a shop would take?

    I am trying to decide if I try and take some things off and hopefully just get some fresh bolts in or if I let my shop do it, but they obviously want to strip it all back and replace the gaskets and probably have to deal with more snapped bolts.

    Any ideas on how many hours this would take will be appreciated.

    Thanks.
     
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  3. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    Fix it right, or fix it twice.
     
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  4. Goodysnap

    Goodysnap Road Train Member

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    When it comes to drilling broken bolts out of expensive engines all bets are off and I charge by the hour. It takes skill and expertise with quality tools to be done correctly without causing further damage to the engine. Some fall out with a left handed bit in 10 minutes when everything goes smooth. Others take 2 hours or longer per bolt.

    All components will need to be removed to repair broken exhaust manifold bolts broken off flush in the cylinder head. Even if you could get the broken bolts out and replaced, it would likely still be leaking when you got done.
     
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  5. Vampire

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    If you don't know what you are doing, take it to the shop. The peace of mind in work that is guaranteed in case there is a hiccup is worth the extra money. One thing I'll tell you is don't put off repairs. "It's been like that for a while" is a good way to keep you down for extended periods of time, instead of taking the time and money to do it once and do it right. Don't let problems fester into something greater.

    Good luck.
     
  6. Vampire

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    or even fix it thrice.
     
  7. jamespmack

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    I've gone to great lengths on them. Weld the center of a washer to the broken bolt. Then weld a nut to the washer. Back out with impact.

    This is the best way, and my most successful way to me. I have had it not work. I've drilled some, I've went as far as grinding them out with Dremel and carbide bit.

    Good luck.
     
  8. AModelCat

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    Exhaust work tends to go 1 of 2 ways.

    Either the bolt comes out with no trouble (rare) or its locked in there (usually how it goes) and you're sitting there, working the bolt back and forth for an hour or 2 so you don't damage the manifold stud holes in the head.

    Its cheaper for the customer for the mechanic to take their time so as to avoid damaging the head (or snapping off an extractor in the broken bolt, at which point you're up #### creek).
     
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  9. jamespmack

    jamespmack Road Train Member

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    Carbide eats extractors also. But your in for a long day.
     
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  10. AModelCat

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    And several dozen metal splinters all over your body :(
     
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  11. MTMAUS

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    I just know that will Turbo will go bang 3 weeks after I get this fixed, I can feel it in my bones...
     
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