Cummins ISX12 G natural gas engine, how much does it cost?

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  1. d60-14

    d60-14 Light Load Member

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    I have seen these engines rated at 400HP/1450lb-ft of torque, offered at Freightliner, Volvo and Kenworth. I am just wondering if you have a good truck and want to just get rid of your old diesel engine and put one of these, how much will be the cost of doing that? I know 400HP/1450 is not much but with good transmission like 13 speed will do the job. The price for the natural gas is like $2.00/ gallon comparing $4.00/gallon for diesel. Your savings will be like $30 000 / year, if you drive 10k miles a month.
     
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  3. Dryver

    Dryver Road Train Member

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    The savings are great if you can find a place that sells the stuff. I see it a regular gas stations but nothing you can pull a rig up to.
     
  4. chalupa

    chalupa Road Train Member

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    My carrier acquired 10 of these in KW's a couple of years back. They start diesel and run cng. They were $175k per copy then the gooberment gave them a tax break.
    A large tax break.

    The units required special training for fueling and did not deliver as promised. Limited fueling capacity keeps them local too. The drivers reported them not to have the pull power of a diesel.

    That's it....
     
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  5. d60-14

    d60-14 Light Load Member

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    ....ISX12G must be a newer version, because runs only on CNG and it has spark plugs like a gasoline engine....
     
  6. scottied67

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    I read an interesting article the other day, there is a company that is venturing into retrofitting trucks with diesel/electric generators so the truck will be powered much like a locomotive. What they do is drop your big fuel tanks then strap on 2 smaller fuel tanks, and add about 16 more batteries. Evidently the truck burns the same amount of fuel whether on flat ground or pulling a hill.
     
  7. d60-14

    d60-14 Light Load Member

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    ....this is a problem, but is getting better. I run from West Coast to East Coast and I see many more form the big truck stops are putting CNG pumps for trucks.....
     
  8. Milktanker

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    I was wrenching for swift and we had a few of these that they were testing out for cummins. The drivers hated them and they were constantly in the shop. They only had 300 mile range for fuel. Had to stay in very specific routes that had fuel available. I would avoid it for a few more years, let the fuel supply get worked out a bit more and get some of the problems worked out on the engines first
     
  9. snowwy

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    the fuel may be cheaper. but you also get half the mileage and half the power.

    i've talked to a few people that have cng cars. and they all say the same thing.
     
  10. VARITHMS

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    We just order 5 cng t800 day cab Kenworths at 190k each The fuel tanks are stacked behind the cab. We opt for 155 diesel equivalent gallons.That gives us a range of about 700 miles. You cant use 100% of fuel capacity. The tanks are the expensive part. $60k. We used a demo for a few days and they pull just fine. The throttle takes getting use to. It is not as responsive as a diesel. The 15l lng direct injection is going to be the best.There are cng stations going on line very quickly. There is 8 within 300 miles of Houston. Our company is also making a 2 million dollar investment to build a public station. natural gas from our own line will be about 1.20 deg and around 2.5 at public stations.

    Cng cars are not the same old bolt on extra carburetor like the where. Now they are controlled with ecu's, injectors, and lots of other tech. The new dual fuel pick up truck switch seamlessly with no or minimal power loss.
     
  11. Pumpkin Oval Head

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    Apparently Volvo is having some problem with their cng. One them burned up here and so the other 7 are parked. Volvo won't say what caused the fire. The tanks did not explode but the truck is a total loss. Kane is suing Volvo because of it.
     
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