I am having trouble with my 14 in clutch installation.
The plate that fits over the pins will not sit down into the flywheel.
The way that I understand it that plate should fall right down in there and you should be able to turn it all the way to one side and have .006 clearance. You should be able to put it down in and even turn it a little bit side-to-side for the clearance. But it just fits tight.
I installed the pins with the actual OTC tool and it still won't fit properly on there.
I checked each of the pins with my square and everything appears to be square.
What am I missing?
@Goodysnap
@spsauerland
If you guys are anywhere around I could use the help.
Clutch pin help
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by Dino soar, Oct 13, 2018.
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Have you tried in different posistions?
Is clutch backwards?
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When pin was just very very slightly off so I put it in straight.
I put spacers on the flywheel as they tell you to do before you put the intermediate plate on to check the clearance on the pins. (so that you don't pinch your fingers I think).
The plate is going on nicely now but there's no side-to-side movement at all for clearance.
@Oldironfan
I have tried this Every Witch Way flipping it and what not. The clutch plates are not in yet this is just setting the intermediate plate for clearance on the clutch drive pins.Oldironfan Thanks this. -
That is the key. Put the plate in the flywheel by itself with the flywheel disc in and flat on the bench,make sure it is free on the dogs. If you can fit the gauge on the sides of each dog your good. It's very hard to lift the plate out straight to be sure it doesnt bind. Magnets can help to lift the plate to check for bind.
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I put the clutch disc in the flywheel first, then the center plate. If there is a best place paint a reference spot. Put the center plate in a vise and file with a flat file. Don't be in a hurry.
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I'm not sure what to do.
I had two pins right from the factory they were oversized they wouldn't fit in the tool or into the intermediate plate. But I had other pins so that's okay.
But I actually have the plate to where there's clearance but it's not all on the same side. So on some pins there's clearance on the inside but some pins there's clearance on the outside
So I took one of the pins and I flipped it over and that seemed to have thrown everything off.
I just can't comprehend what the problem is unless the pins are junk but they're genuine pins from eaton.
I don't want to knock these pins out much more because they're not going to fit tightly so I guess something has to get filed. I just can't believe this is that difficult
You should just be able to put your tool in bang your pins in set your plate on and you're done. I can't believe this is such a mess.
I'm going to stop for now. If anyone has any other advice that would be great.spsauerland Thanks this. -
I think your over thinking it. If you have the dogs in straight. File the notches on the plate to open it up a bit as @BoxCarKidd said. Dont forget the rattle springs before you bolt the clutch in.
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Okay I'll file it I'll see how that goes.
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Thank you @BoxCarKidd and
@Goodysnap.
I was hesitant to file the intermediate plate because they tell you not to. But it makes sense why you need to now that I have it together. Nothing in this world is absolutely perfect.
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Just got in from trees on the fence duty because it is dark. I missed your @BoxCarKidd because that has not worked in a long time. Do not know how I messed that up or how to fix it. Help or suggestions would be appreciated.
When I learned how to do those there was no internet to check with Eaton just some old timers that would help if they pleased. I have to have had some information sometime because I recall using tin snips on a .006 gauge so it would fit in the slot. After many of them I do not use a gauge anymore. As long as I can see some clearance, movement, on both sides of the pin I am good with that. It may not be even .006 but if you question movement or if is only a hair I file it a bit. Pin buy pin side by side. Never took one out because it would not release the clutch properly that way.
I did take one back out because a pin was slightly turned. It was installed with the guide tool. The flywheel was not cut all the way to the corner. Being in a hurry the tool went up on the ridge on one side turning the pin a bit. Hurried the the rest of the job and got to do it again. Look closely at the pin relative to the plate. You can see a crocked pin. If one has a bit more clearance it will wear in. The older engines only came with four pins anyway.
As for the pins getting loose in the holes there are set screws in the bottom of the holes where the pressure plate bolts go. Some used two short allen heads in each hole, one to tighten the pin and the second to jam the first. Others just used one long one in each hole.
Just to the best of my understanding. Good LuckDino soar and spsauerland Thank this.
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