Class A vs Class B trailer and GCVWR clarification

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by amstel78, Feb 4, 2015.

  1. amstel78

    amstel78 Bobtail Member

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    Hello everyone,

    I'm not a trucker (yet). I'm currently studying to obtain a CDL with the goal of becoming an independent transporter using a pickup truck and a trailer. I'm trying to wrap my head around the CDL class A and B stipulations with regards to pulling a trailer. I live in PA, and according to the PA CDL manual it states for class B: "A single vehicle with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 or more pounds" - no mention of a trailer.

    Yet, NYS DMV writes: "GVWR of more than 26,000 lbs. OR tractor portion of the tractor/trailer combination. Class B may tow vehicles with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or less, or may tow a vehicle of more than 10,000 lbs. providing the GCWR is not more than 26,000 lbs."

    I'd like to know if the DMV stipulations also apply to PA? My CDL will be issued in PA and am wondering if I can legally (for example) use a Ram 3500 dually with a GVWR of 11,000lbs to haul an enclosed cargo trailer with a GVWR of only 20,000 lbs? To me it seems that the combined gross vehicle weight rating of the truck and trailer is 31,000 lbs and I would need a class A license. OTOH, if I'm driving the same RAM but now have a trailer with a GVWR of only 15,000 lbs making for a GCVWR of 26,000 lbs, I'm legal to operate with a class B? Am I understanding this correctly or am I fudging the numbers somewhere?

    Many thanks in advance for your feedback.
     
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  3. peter_x

    peter_x Light Load Member

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    Sounds right to me.
     
  4. street beater

    street beater Road Train Member

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    Go to the hot shots thread. They can help you
     
  5. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Here is the thing, if you pull anything that has a gvw under 10,000 lbs, class B

    if you pull anything over 10,001 lbs, class A

    and stop watching shipping wars.
     
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  6. peter_x

    peter_x Light Load Member

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    If your GCWR is over 26,000lbs.
     
  7. FuzzFace2

    FuzzFace2 Medium Load Member

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    If you are going to spend money for the class B license help yourself and just go for the class A license.
    This way you can drive anything as long as you don't over load the truck/trailer.
    Dave ----
     
  8. mosrock

    mosrock Light Load Member

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    simple salution get your class a and then you dont have to worry about a class b
     
  9. Ridgeline

    Ridgeline Road Train Member

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    Yes, but then when I have a truck that is rated at 33k and I am pulling a trailer that is under 10k, I need only a class b.

    i agree with the others if you are going to get a license, just get a class a cdl.
     
  10. lfod14

    lfod14 Road Train Member

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    You need a Class A, Class B only allows a trailer with a GVW up to 10,000lbs, OVER 10,000lbs you need a Class A.
     
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  11. amstel78

    amstel78 Bobtail Member

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    Thank you all for your comments. That's what I thought. The reason I asked in the first place was the following in bold from the NYS CDL handbook threw me for a loop. Based on the way it's written, it seems I could pull a trailer over 10k lbs as long as GCVWR was 26k lbs or less. I guess I'll go for the class A.

    Again from NYS CDL book: "GVWR of more than 26,000 lbs. OR tractor portion of the tractor/trailer combination. Class B may tow vehicles with a GVWR of 10,000 lbs. or less, or may tow a vehicle of more than 10,000 lbs. providing the GCWR is not more than 26,000 lbs."

    P.S. I do enjoy Shipping Wars as a show, but this is something I've been contemplating doing for some time even before I discovered the show. I'm tired of my office job.
     
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