I am getting tired of pushing and pulling the pallet jack. Anyone here make the leap from P&D driver to tanker work?
City Driver vs Tanker
Discussion in 'Tanker, Bulk and Dump Trucking Forum' started by Zoltan1a, Jan 1, 2023.
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Tank has been one of my two least enjoyable jobs, in my years. The load out lines sucking, getting the crap beat out of me from sloshing, scrutinizing, night schedule, and receiver BS grew tiring. However, some love it. You just gotta’ find what it is YOU like.Loudstacks, Another Canadian driver, tscottme and 4 others Thank this. -
@Chinatown may be able to offer some suggestions depending on where you live.
I have nothing but positive experiences from pulling tanks.
Liquid surge isn't a problem if you drive for it. Simply put: when you drive steady, the liquid remains steady. No sudden stops or starts will soothe the savage beast.
Consider a dedicated route. I enjoy predictable hometime. Or local fuel hauling might do it for you.
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Going from door slammer to chemical tank was the best decision. Like @Flat Earth Trucker says, if you learn how to drive with the surge, it is manageable. I rarely feel it anymore.
As far as waiting times, it's rare to have to wait and the plants are expecting us. If for some reason we get delayed we are well compensated for it.Loudstacks, lual, Another Canadian driver and 7 others Thank this. -
I already have a nice list from him just trying to learn about people's experiences overall.
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I've been hauling fuel now, as I write this....for a year and a half.
In my area of the world, fuel haulers make the same--or more--as the cryogenic drivers do. Go figure.
Fuel can be a neat way to make the "leap" to tanker....because fuel trailers are compartmentalized, for different amounts/types of fuel.
Thus--there's no real forward/backward "surge".
What's the "dark side" of fuel?
Unless you get extremely lucky--you'll start out doing night shift, and also making deliveries on weekends and holidays.
Shifts are seniority-based.
First year vacation time is often pretty skimpy. Paid sick leave can be, as well.
You'll also very likely slip-seat, too.
My slip-seater is a bit of a slob. Yours could be, too.
Fuel is also dirty work, too. I have the clothes to prove it.
Mistakes in the fuel-hauling world can be either very expensive, very dangerous--or both.
Get a good trainer (fortunately--I did).
Probably the biggest headache (in my opinion) with fuel: you work up close and personal with the public, when making deliveries.
Thus--you sometimes have to put up with some real characters. Not a good thing, when you're delivering something that is highly flammable.
My advice: if you do decide to go ahead and try fuel--do so with a private fleet.
Why?
- Better pay/benefits
- Better equipment
- Better working conditions (examples: fewer allocation problems at fuel terminals; store perks; overtime after 40 hrs)
- MUCH BETTER deliveries/stops!!!
- MUCH LESS exposure/up-close dealings with the public, during deliveries.
- The work load is much more consistent, and predictable. Thus--better $$$$.
Because of these advantages--many private fleet jobs have lots of competition for them. But don't let that stop you from trying.
Good examples of the private fleets:
- Pilot/Flying J
- Love's
- Energy Dispatch (aka, "RaceTrac")
- Buc-ee's
- Sheetz
Look for a fleet that pays hourly. That way--you are paid for ALL OF YOUR TIME--whether you are moving, or not.
If a fleet in question is not paid hourly, then look for a minimum weekly pay guarantee.
Avoid fleets that simply pay "by the load"--with no guarantee. Those are basically slave-labor gigs.
An exception: One private fleet I would suggest you avoid is Circle K.
With fuel, BOTH tanker and hazmat endorsements are required. A TWIC card usually helps get on board, too.
If you try fuel, and later decide you don't like it--the experience you get there is widely respected, and so you can then "pivot" to other types of tanker duty--or even leave tanker, entirely.
Usually, it's a home-daily gig--so it's good for drivers who are married and/or have a family.
Generally speaking--I DO NOT recommend fuel hauling for those just out of CDL school.
Get AT LEAST 2 years of experience elsewhere, hauling non-hazmat loads--FIRST.
If you embrace the above info--your first fuel hauling experience should be a pretty good one.
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Occasionally, I see a guy on I-70 with the same placard and he pulls a small diameter tank that must’ve been built specific to haul the stuff.
With “most” everything else, the tanks were fairly close to appropriate size for the load. On loads I controlled, I always loaded to 79,900lbs, to take up space.Last edited: Jan 1, 2023
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Been pulling tanks for 21 years now. Refers before that. Never looked back.
Pull both chemicals and aviation fuels.
As far as surge goes you learn to drive with it. The worst thing is having an automatic transmission with a tanker, you can’t control the surge with one.Loudstacks, MACK E-6, cuzzin it and 6 others Thank this.
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