changing head gasket on paccar mx13 epa 10... help!!!

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  1. splittero1

    splittero1 Bobtail Member

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    yup I have all that stuff in a bag one for each cylinder.. injector hold down bolts are one time use? dang.. didn't know that..as far as tubes.. you do mean the push rod tubes? if so I don't understand how they are mated.
     
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  3. pushbroom

    pushbroom Road Train Member

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    The injector pipe that goes in the head the the injector. Its a crush fit so they can seal the 30,000psi. Each pipe has to stay with that injector.
    If you install a new injector ypu need a new pipe.
    Technically they can only be reused 3 times but if they look new i would reuse them.
     
  4. pushbroom

    pushbroom Road Train Member

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    Also oil on headbolt threads and a little on the bottom on the head to help it turn and not gall.
     
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  5. splittero1

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    Yup ok thats wat i figured u were talking about.. makes more sense but wanted to be sure.. ive got em laid out in order so can be put back in cylinder came out of
     
  6. splittero1

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    So can there be too much oil on bolts ? I dipped the bolts into a new quart of engine oil and set them aside for a couple mins to drain.
     
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    A thin film should suffice. Too much you could potentially hydraulic the block. Worst case crack the block, best case insufficient stretch on the bolt.
     
  8. splittero1

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    ok thanks..i did let the bolts drain pretty good after I dipped them.. they weren't soaking wet or anything so hopefully I will be ok..
     
  9. spsauerland

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    What did you find when you got the head off?
     
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  10. splittero1

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    well, lol I found a blown head gasket that was busted in the middle on the outer edge. drivers side. much more than that I don't think I have the experience to say. the head looked fine to me.. no big carbon build up or anything at the valves.. the valves looked really good. no major scarring that I could tell any where. as far as the block surface goes.. there was the discoloration from the water in several places. no major scarring that I could see there either.. I never saw any cracks anywhere on block or head. I used a square, probly abt two and a half feet long to see if the block surface was flat. at first there was a pretty good dip at about cylinder two and three, but after cleaning up the surface a little it kinda leveled out. I was afraid to go to much on the cleaning as someone said I should be very careful with it so as not to create waves. I said there was no scarring that I could tell but something was bothering me. I guess it was from the head gasket but there were some indentations in the surface that look like little squares.i guess they were from the head gasket were its tabbed together? I hope those wont be a problem..
    so this evening I got it finished.. all put back together only three bolts leftover and I know where those go.. just forgot to put them back in..lol. I did not adjust the lash on the valves when I had it apart. I don't have the tools for that. I need to get me a proper barring tool for paccar , the one I was trying to use was undersized, but by wedging a small screwdriver in with the barring tool I was actually able to turn the motor over, but wow wat a pain in the but. ill get me a proper barring tool and the feeler gauges and do it right. but when I removed all the rocker assmbly's I kept everything in order as I removed them, so when I put them back on it should be just as I took them off. didn't know if that would work or not.. a mechanic friend told me I should've done the lash but as I said I didn't have the tools, he said the lash is gonna be way out of adjustments once I removed the assembly's, but he also has never opened a paccar up either. I don't know if other engines are designed like the paccar a far as the overhead is concerned, as you know this engine doesn't have the overhead cam and all that.. just the rocker assembly's and I believe that ( and I am probly wrong ) if you don't mess with the adjustment nuts on the rockers then they should remain the same as when you took them off? just make sure they go back to the same cylinder they came off of? hope I was right.
    anyways the truck took a lot of priming, didn't want to start until I cracked open the injector pipes going into the block, pumped the hand primer until I saw fuel coming out then tightened em back up. guess I wasn't able to get the air out of the tubes just from priming without cracking em open.. the truck started after that and I let it run for awhile while I strapped down some loose wiring harnesses and doing a bunch of double checking, took it down the road a couple miles, seems to be running ok, tomorrow morning I will start it again and let it run for a few minutes then change the oil and fuel filters, so the truck actually started and ran.. I am so tickled pink and amazed. lol something that bothers me is the oil pressure.. before it started leaking the oil pressure was at a steady 65 to 70 lbs.. since I found it leaking, the oil pressure would go pretty high, over 80 lbs until the truck got good and warmed up then it would settle down to abt 65. I was wondering if water in the oil would cause that? I never saw any evidence of water on the dip stick when I check oil level and the oil level never went up or anything.. so idk, guess when I change the oil tomorrow I will see if it still does that.
    but man I just want to say thank you so much for all the help with information and tips and everything else, not sure if I could've done this without ur help and also to those other guys that gave me pointers also, pushbroom and the other guys.. thanks again.. hey one last question.. do you know of anyplace here in texas that has a dyno, and wat an average price might be to get my truck put on one? ive never had a truck on one and I am so much wondering wat would be the cause of this truck blowing the head gasket like that..
    anyways thanks again
     
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  11. pushbroom

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    Technically on a overhead cam motor the valve set should not change if it was all assembled as it came off. The front idler lash could change as the head might be sitting slightly higher or lower.

    On a in block camshaft such as the MX13 the valve set will change even if you put it back in the same order due to the head sitting higher or lower and changing the rocker to cam distance.

    I would prioritize getting the top set done.

    Any pics of the blown headgasket and block??
    I would question liner height where the gasket blew.

    You would need a precision straight edge and .001 thou feeler guages to check block straightness, a square is probably .020 thou out or more.
     
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