Cement Truck Weight

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  1. Labrador

    Labrador Medium Load Member

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    Cement truck label says GVWR 74,000 lbs (might have been 72,000 lbs).
    Each drive of the two drive axles has a maximum loading rating of 20,000 lbs?
    Steer axle 12,000 lbs?
    Booster Wheels 12,000 lbs?

    20000 + 20000 + 12000 + 12000 =64,000 lbs

    How can the GVWR by 74,000 lbs if the maximum loading on the axles above is 64,000 lbs?

    Is my math or assumptions wrong?
     
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  3. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    Well your steer axle is probably rated higher than 12,000 I'd guess
    And gvwr has little to be do what's legal it's just a number the manufacturer came up with as to what they engineered the vehicle to withstand.
    Every state it seems has different weight limit laws.
     
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  4. TripleSix

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    Usually, cement trucks will have the big floater steer tires that usually have a 20k rating as well.
     
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  5. Labrador

    Labrador Medium Load Member

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    Good point..I wonder if that is the discrepancy

    20k + 20K + 20Ksteer + 12k booster = 72,000 lbs
     
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  6. wis bang

    wis bang Road Train Member

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    State laws can assist the construction side.

    NJ has ten wheel dump trucks that are allowed to run extra heavy while working the job but require them to be empty when traveling to a different job site. Nothing is truly impossible, it just costs extra.
     
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  7. Allow Me.

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    both drive axles are allowed 34k total, or, if you have 20k on one, then only 14k on the other, which equals 34k. Redy mix trucks all have (in Ca.) 20k rated steer axles. Compare to a set of doubles (in Ca.) You have 5 axles, steer, drive, front trailer, congear, and last axle. You can gross 80k. Each trailer is allowed 34k, however, each axle (trailer) can weigh 20k loaded, BUT, if you have 20k on axle 4, you can only have 14k on axle 5. (total 34k). The tag I think is good for 12k, but if it's good for 20k, there's your 74k you're asking about. (34k plus 20k plus 20k)
     
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  8. Moose1958

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    When that truck came off the line it was nothing but a cab and chassis. The maker is required to put certain data inside the door. One thing they place there is the weight the chassis was built to hold. This is not the same thing as the axle limits. Don't get them confused!
     
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  9. Ex-Trucker Alex

    Ex-Trucker Alex Road Train Member

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    It also depends on how far apart the axles are. If you could give us an idea of that, maybe we'd be able to help you more. There are different cement mixer designs, too. My best guess? Well, probably a super-single front axle=20k. Then the drives=34k. The "booster" is probably too close to the drives, so it only bumps-up the whole rear axle setup to 44k. I'm assuming it's a common rear-discharge version, so the wheelbase would be fairly short.

    If you had something like a wester-style front-discharge with a longer wheelbase and a trailing, steering drop-booster and 2 front drop-boosters and a super-single steer, that would probably be something like 20k+10k+10k+34k+12k=86k. You can see setups like this in a lot of places in Michigan...
     
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  10. Labrador

    Labrador Medium Load Member

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    That could very well be. Good info thank you
     
  11. Labrador

    Labrador Medium Load Member

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    I took another look at the label and from memory i think it it was (GAWR)
    Front 20K
    Both Drive axles 19.5K
    Booster 13.5K

    20+19.5+19.5+13.5 = 72.5K
     
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