Cat 330 on a float..overloaded, but what would it take to be legal?

Discussion in 'Flatbed Trucking Forum' started by Macneil, Oct 11, 2012.

  1. Macneil

    Macneil Heavy Load Member

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    Saw this little fella going down a back road(go figure) today. Cat 330 shovel with some swamp matts, rebar and some other junk under the tracks that I couldn't quite see. What the pic doesn't show is what the axle grouping was on the truck/trailer. Truck was a Western Star with a small bunk, 20k front axle and 46 rears with maybe a 244" WB. Trailer was a tri axle lowboy with no lifts/jeeps.

    I know he's way over loaded here, but what would you actually need to float a piece of equipment of this size? Nevermind the extra weight he had on board lol.

    330 lowboy.jpg
     
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  3. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    you can get overweight permits, for non reduceable loads up to the max safe load on the tires,
     
  4. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    not to be an ###, but are you sure this driver is overweight? and if we are being mr finger wager probably alot more dangerous taking pictures than haulin a bit heavy
     
  5. Macneil

    Macneil Heavy Load Member

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    You've never once snapped a pic while driving? Thanks for your first reply.
     
  6. Chain Drive

    Chain Drive Medium Load Member

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    I take pics all the time, sorry for my tone, all too often people ask a question as a way to point out other peoples mistakes, or wrong doing.
    to be serious, if this driver is overweight, the load you describe can't be made legal, permits only cover things that can't be made smaller (the Cat) the mats etc. would have to go separate
     
  7. ColoradoGreen

    ColoradoGreen Heavy Load Member

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    Disregarding the other stuff, in my state he is not even remotely overloaded on a 3-axle tractor and 3-axle trailer. The truck and trailer will weigh about 42-45,000lbs. depending on how heavy spec the truck itself is, maybe even up to 47,000lbs.

    In my area, with an annual permit, you're cleared for 55,000lbs. on a tandem drive-axle grouping (on green roads). On the tridem trailer grouping you're clear for 65,000lbs. It's difficult on most trucks to shift a lot of weight on the steer axle, he's probably sitting between 12-14,000 on the steer. That would permit him to an effective 134,000lbs. on six-axles. A 330 is 78,000lbs, with a 45,000lb. empty weight that puts him at 123,000lbs.

    He might be overloaded in other places, but, out here he would be just fine on his weight so long as the excavator is sitting in the right spot.

    I've been heavier than that on six...
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  8. Stn4Cap

    Stn4Cap Bobtail Member

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    Back when I was floating equipment (early 2000's), I moved the same load (not including mats, etc) many times, including over scales, and never once was overweight. I also had the same set-up, tandem 9900 and tri-axle float.
     
  9. aiwiron

    aiwiron Road Train Member

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    I could scale legal in 11 Western States and 4 Eastern with 6 axles and a 330 on the trailer, just not going to be hauling all that extra mats since they only let us haul one piece of over weight on a trailer.

    Not sure how legal that load was in Canada
     
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