Canada---Can I work there as a USA driver?

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by quatto, Jul 10, 2014.

  1. quatto

    quatto Medium Load Member

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    I go into British Colombia about twice a month and think it's a grand country. I love the people and the natural vistas. I was there today and really enjoyed the fantastic scenery of the Frazier River area and the diverse culture of the city of Vancouver. I'd like to spend more time there as a driver but I'm not really sure of how to make that happen. (Working for a US company requires I bounce back and forth across the border which is a big pain.)

    I was wondering if you can independently contract with a Canadian company (like maybe as an O/O?) and still maintain your US citizenship and US driver status? Would I need Canadian licensing or a green card to work there? I know there is great demand for drivers there so I was thinking there might be some clever way I could arrange to drive there more often without actually moving there.

    Any thoughts on how I could make that happen?

    Thanks! You guys and gals are the greatest !:Transportation cost
     
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  3. Dna Mach

    Dna Mach Road Train Member

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    You sure can. You will need a Canadian Work Visa and for those you will need a sponsor, which will be the company employing you. As you know, your current situation using only your US passport, only permits you to deliver and reload for the US. There's quite a bit more to it but I think any company interested in working with you will ease the process. Most North American truck drivers from the UK are domiciled to Canadian companies due to Canada's very lax, in comparison to ours, immigration and foreign worker laws and regulations.
     
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  4. DannyD

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    I did something sort of similar when I was in expediting. I used my own cargo van, a Ford E-250. I worked for a Canadian company. As an American I wasn't able to take a Canada to Canada run. Most of my runs were from Michigan to the Toronto area and back. Sometimes there'd be a day gap, but sometimes I'd go back and forth twice in a day. It was my favorite time in all of freight delivery.

    They got rid of their American fleet, so that situation only lasted about a year.

    What I did was rent a room in Toronto. That way I didn't have to sit in my van when I was done. I get that you're looking to live in Canada full time. I'm not sure how ya'd be able to do Canada to Canada runs though. Ya may want to check in with a Canadian company and they'd have better information for your Q's.

    As an American, if I'm not mistaken you can live there 6 months if you rent your own place before ya need to check in with authorities, who may/may not let ya stay. If you rent a room from someone, I see no reason why ya can't stay longer. There's advantages in that because if you buy any furniture or what have ya, bringing it back to the US ya may have to pay duty on it. I left the furniture I bought with the guy I rented a room from.

    If you'd like to spend more time there, but don't have to live there, is there a dedicated run that goes to Vancouver? Doing that will allow you to spend 3-4 days a week there without having to go through the immigration hassles.

    Good luck to ya.
     
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  5. quatto

    quatto Medium Load Member

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    Thanks, Danny. I haven't been to Toronto yet but I'd really like to visit all the provinces just for kicks.

    How did you like the Canadian people? Do you think they're much different from us 'gringos' ? ;-)
     
  6. quatto

    quatto Medium Load Member

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    Not sure what happened to my earlier response to you but.....

    Yes! The company I'd be working with/for would be able to help! Duh!

    And what does "domiciled to....." mean? Is that a Brit expression? ;-)
     
  7. DannyD

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    I loved em. It was little things like when I'd ask for directions (this was before GPS were as enhanced as now) rather than just giving me directions, the guy would tell me: On your way there, stop in at Tony's Subs. It's right between the beauty parlor and the drug store. They're the best in town. Tell him Bill sent ya and he'll hook ya up."

    So it was little things like that which made me really enjoy the place.

    I think in general Canadians are happier than Americans. I know it's probably not a good idea to generalize like that, but that was my take on things. I don't think they're that much different, they just seem to be happier. It's been a few years since I've been there, but except for Toronto, most of the towns had a small town feel. Toronto I wouldn't expect to feel like a small town. Toronto though was what a big city should be like. Vibrant, clean, and safe. I'm not sure if it's still like that.

    Ironic that you want to visit Toronto. I want to visit Vancouver. Seeing it on Hockey Night in Canada over the course of almost 50 years I've been awed by the breathtaking beauty of the place.

    Also if ya get a chance, get to Montreal. I didn't speak French, but they're ok with that as long as they know you're an American. I guess Canadians had better know their French if they visit. I got treated real well there. Not like rock star well, but more "hey, this guy is visiting, lets make sure he enjoys himself" type well. If ya can talk hockey, even if ya don't root for Montreal, it helps. It's also neat listening to the radio. The DJ's will speak in French, which I didn't understand a word, but then they'd play ZZ Top, Aerosmith or something like that which I understood perfectly.



     
  8. Ridgeline

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    Cabotage is the term that is used, it is a treaty between Canada and the US that defines what can be done. Unlike our treaty with Mexico which allows full cabotage rights, the one with Canada is limited but should be changed.

    I've done a lot of Canadian work, I like it up there unless I get a person who just doesn't like people from the US and there are a few of them.

    I maybe one of the few who around in the states that can understand the French signage (or it seems to be that way) and know when I'm being insulted (mother-in-law is Arcadian French and she swears a lot in French). Sometimes it is easy to get through traffic while other times it is a pain. If you want to know what a European city looks like, go to Quebec.

    I would recommend a good meal that includes Poutine ==> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poutine which you can find a lot of places, like KFC but get it from a sit down place. There is a couple places in Toronto that take it to a new level.

    The other thing is my last trip there I had a curry wurst and a donner kabob, which I have yet to see here in the states except in NYC where they called something a donner kabob but it wasn't like anything edible - go figure.
     
  9. quatto

    quatto Medium Load Member

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    I wondered if someone else had that perception. I think that's true--they are a happy and warm peoples.

    I remember when I was flying up to Canada all the time as a private pilot. Speaking to air traffic control (ATC) in the USA was always all business. Everything was spoken rapid-fire and like an angry robot.... and you had to get it on the first go or they gave you attitude. Customs was a beeyatch also. You had to make an appointment to meet the customs agent at the airport upon landing and estimate your ETA within 10 minutes or so. This is very difficult when you are flying across a large body of water with unanticipated winds. If you are 5 minutes late the customs agent will leave and you're stuck there for hours and possibly all night if they've gone home for the evening. USA agents always treated me like I was some kind of inconvenient criminal suspect.

    On the other hand I recall flying into Victoria Canada--a super lovely place, BTW---and getting lost. I had trouble finding the airport so I called Canadian ATC and the controller spoke to me as if I was asking for directions to a good restaurant:

    "Cessna 123 do you need some assistance?"
    "Yes sir. I can't find the airport."
    "Cessna 123 do you see the inlet off to your right and the big clump of trees?"
    "No sir. Do you have radar?"
    "Yes, we have radar. You are about 13 miles southwest of the airport. If you take a right at the clump of trees you'll see the airport."
    "Can you give me vectors?"
    "You don't need them. You aren't in the states.(chuckle) Just look for the clump of trees on your right. Do you see them yet?"
    "Oh, yeah. I got the trees. (chuckle)."
    "Turn right there. You should then see the airport at your 12"
    "Ok....I got the airport. Thanks."
    "You are cleared to land and proceed to the blue phone on the west side of the airport."
    "Blue phone? What's that for? (chuckle)"
    "That's customs. LoL"
    "That's customs? Did the agent go home or something?"
    "No. You just pick up the phone and get a number. Then you're ok for entry."
    "That's it? Just get a number?"
    "That's it! Welcome to Canada!"

    It took me years of collecting incidents like the above to realize that Canadians were just naturally more relaxed and friendly than we are. They seem to enjoy impromptu conversation about anything and are curious by nature. We, otoh, are always one step ahead of the moment and trying to maximize our time. Vancouver is an immaculately clean sprawling suburb/city that has many different cultures living side-by-side with almost no racial tensions. At least, nothing like we have here in the USA in the big cities.

    Anyway, thanks so much for your insightful comments!
     
  10. quatto

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    Wow! Very interesting descriptive writing that made me hungry. You are very adept at writing!

    Cabotage is a term I've never heard before. How does it's application to Canada differ from the one with Mexico?
     
  11. bergy

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    Hi guys, thought I'd chime in. I'm from Canada, born and raised. I've spent my last 20 years in AZ, and travelling extensively across the US. Lots of differences between the countries - good and bad for both. Since we are speaking of Canada - It wasn't your imagination, the people are far friendlier than here - it's not even close. Now of course larger centers are less friendly than the more relaxed smaller towns. But, compare a big city in the US to Canada big city - it's like night and day. In my mind the biggest plus of Canada is the people. The downsides? Well, their political system is different than ours, but just as much of a joke. The taxes are very high. And as you know, diesel is a lot more $ per fill. The east and west are very scenic - the prairies not so much. Weather in summer time is very nice but winters are brutal.

    Hope this helps.
     
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