Can you make your own fuel? Biodiesel?

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  1. Blind Driver

    Blind Driver Road Train Member

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    At least he can have soap to clean up afterwards :)

    I know a local guy that runs bio in his dump truck fleet. He saves tens of thousands of dollars every year.
     
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  3. hertfordnc

    hertfordnc Bobtail Member

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    Whether or not making biofuel is worthwhile is a separate debate. As part of a business plan if you could remove $.20-.30 /per mile from your operating cost and maybe trade it for time you spend while you're home gathering oil and making fuel it could work great for some people.

    I just want to know how to do it legally. Paying the tax would not be an obstacle as you have ot pay the tax on petro diesel anyway
     
  4. Ridgeline

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    OK first I think it is an exempt fuel, the DoE can tell you if it is.

    Second the cost savings you get may be moot if you go through an injector pump or some other component in the fuel system.

    Third no matter what you will pay IFTA taxes if you are running an apportioned plate.

    Forth is where are you going to get it consistently?
     
  5. hertfordnc

    hertfordnc Bobtail Member

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    All good questions. The biodiesel fanatics claim properly made bd is as good anything you can buy with the exception of some late model trucks that spray fuel in the cylinders on the exhaust stroke have problems with biodiesel due to viscosity.. So you'd haveto make sure your engine was compatible with biodiesel.

    As for getting it consistently, you'd source the waste VO from your local restaurants and make it yourself. If every time you got home you could make 200 gallons for the next trip then you are pocketing $600 per trip.
     
  6. 900,000-tons-of-steel

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    http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html

    http://www.mnn.com/green-tech/trans...fy-a-diesel-engine-to-run-it-on-vegetable-oil

    http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=2189517
     
  7. Scania man

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    I've run cars on vegetable oil, no conversions necessary , a tablespoon of mentholated spirits in every 5 gallons and straight in, it wasn't legal in Ireland but the car ran perfectly despite smelling like French fries as you drove, bit of a giveaway that!
     
  8. Scania man

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    You are correct, waste VO is even better than fresh VO, even gives more bang, just filter it properly , a basic deisel engine will run on any oil, the original deisel engine was run on peanut oil , funny that, if still powered by peanut oil it would be better for the envoirnment, no egr or problems associated with it, no carbon taxes either! Hhhmmmm
     
  9. snowwy

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    the bio fuel at the pumps isn't 100 percent bio. it's too hard for semis and constantly plugs filters. you could probably do good with vegetable oil. but forget animal fat.

    i think the mixture is 25 percent bio to 75 percent standard fuel.

    i used to haul bio from a plant. they insist on using animal fat. but they can't keep customers around becuase of it. trucks buy the stuff, then can't fire up their rigs in the morning becuase the filters are gelled. the plant also spend tons of money on filters constantly changing them.

    they had a customer for a couple of months. for every 6000 gallons we brought in. he had 12000 gallons regular fuel added to the same tank.

    that bio fuel we hauled, also froze at 45 degrees.
     
  10. crb

    crb Road Train Member

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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_engine
     
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  11. Ridgeline

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    The oil doesn't plug the filters, the fat does if it isn't processed out. One reason why not to use waste oil that isn't processed is because of the fat content, it will run the engine but how long will it last.

    Many states mandate the blend for summer use and in the south they have it year round.

    the problem with using animal fat like lard is that it takes more time to process where veggie oil doesn't.
     
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