Can I deduct this as an expense on my taxes as a CDL Student?

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bananajohn, Aug 29, 2022.

  1. bananajohn

    bananajohn Bobtail Member

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    As a Driver Apprentice, if I purchased a Trucking Simulator / Driving set-up to further my education in regard to my apprenticeship and career path, could that be written of as a business expense?

    I’m fully expecting “no” but I wanted to hear everyone else’s opinions.

    It just crossed my mind.
    Thank you,
     
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  3. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Last I checked these driver simulators are well into the 6 figures.
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Depends on what exactly we’re talking about here. In the OP’s case it could be just a simple computer program.
     
  5. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    May as well just go buy Snowrunner for $50 lol.
     
  6. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Whoops, I misread his post and missed the word “if”. :biggrin_25523:

    Stupid 13 hour workdays.
     
  7. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    The IRS generally allows you to deduct education/training material for your current job. It does not generally allw you to deduct expenses for a future job. So a truck driver probably could deduct the fees for attending a truck show, seminars on trucking and owning and operating a truck. But a truck driver wouldn't be able to deduct his expenses preparing him to be a real estate agent, or licensed electrician. I don't know enough about the duties of driver apprentice to know how the IRS or accountant would compare that to truck driver. You need an accountant to answer.

    It's been a long time since I spent time and money simulating, my field was airplanes. Do the steering wheels for sims turn all the way around enough times to resemble a truck? I was never into driving sims. Back then the steering wheels would do one 360 turn. I think my last truck the actual steering wheel might have turned a 360 about 2.5-3 turns, lock-to-lock. I would spend time watching someone back trailers from the outside or watch YouTube videos with overhead and in-cab video of the steering wheel plus mirrors. If you understand what the driver is trying to do, what's the recipe he is following, you will be on your way to learning backing. Most newbies just randomly spin the steering wheel, they get 4 different "instructor" saying the same thing in 5 different ways. IMO, it's better to watch or follow one person's technique over and over than it is to watch or follow 5 different people doing it their own way with different names or explanations for what they are doing.
     
  8. bananajohn

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    Yeah exactly, just truck or euro sim with a $225-$300 wheel, $150 shifter and pedals/clutch combo around the same price.

    nothing crazy, no where near six figures I asked to see if anyone else has ever thought of it and, I’m going to try it out and talk to a CPA and see how it goes, if it works out then it would be great advice to pass along to new drivers.
     
  9. bananajohn

    bananajohn Bobtail Member

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    In regard to the apprenticeship, I’m driving the truck.
    Hook/unhook - Backing - Basic Control / Shifting / Yard and Public Roads with Pups/Dry/Doubles and night driving included.

    I’m doing everything a normal linehaul driver would do, just under supervision.
     
  10. Brandt

    Brandt Road Train Member

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    If someone is company driver their are no tax write off anymore. We get bigger standard deduction now. It was that new tax laws to make it more simple w-2 employees and tax return laws
     
  11. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    In my amateur opinion with what you describe, it would make sense to allow deduction of expenses in that case. The problem is the laws, especially tax laws, are not simple logic. Also, I believe the way to understand a deductions is buying something that is deductible is not have the govt reimburse your purchase, but they reimburse an amount of your purchase equal to your tax rate. So buying a deductible item is getting a discount, but you have to file an itemized tax return. If not being able to deduct the expenses will be a hardship, don't buy anything until you talk to an accountant. I have used Have Tax questions? to get an answer from an accountant. I can't remember if it is free, I might have paid $10-20 for an answer. Your question is pretty basic so any accountant should be able to easily answer. Hopefully your state doesn't have income tax and an answer about the IRS is all you need. There are likely forums for accountants or businesses where you could ask for free. I think you can ask the IRS, but they DO NOT guarantee their answer is correct. You're tax dollars at work.
     
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