I never really understood this and every trucker I know doesn't know it either. I know if I am in the sleeper for 8 hours it gives me some time back (using e-logs). I want to know how can I predict how much time it will give me before the eight hours passes, and does the time it give me restart the 14 hour clock? So if I am out of hours, and I wait eight hours and get back 6 hours for example, can I drive for an hour and then go off duty for lets say 7 hours. Will that take all of my 5 remaining driving hours away or just use up part my 14 hour clock?
The reason I ask is because I am just an hour from my terminal and I am out of hours now. I would like to reach my terminal then go off duty to take a shower and get the company car and go shopping before certain stores close. Then I hope to return and have driving hours left to reach the shipper which is only about 4 hours away. Then I can take my 10 hours there.
Can anyone explain the 8/2 split?
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by NewNashGuy, Mar 15, 2012.
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No, it doesn't restart the 14..it pauses it
Lets say I drive for 6 hours of my 11..I go in the sleeper for 8 hrs..I can then drive my other five..but at the end of that 5 I have to go in the sleeper 2 hours..
If you are driving solo it hurts you more than it helps you. Which is why most don't use that rule..there's also a little sub clause in there too that you have to do that your whole 70 for that week or something like that..there's more too it..but thats the very basics..its either that or to end your cycling like that you have to take a full ten..something doing with how you end split driving/on duty time...
It used to be you could go 5 on the clock, 5 in the sleeper and keep doing that..it changed..cuz they felt we exploited it too much..LOL
For me it was always better to just take a full ten and restart my 14 hr clock than it was to split..or at least log that I took a full ten to restart my 14...D Nowadays..just take the ten and let your 14 restart..you'll get further down the road
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As I understand it, 8 consecutive hours in the sleeper suspends your 14 hour clock, but does not allow you to drive more than 11 hours before you get 2 more hours in the sleeper or off-duty.
Look ->here<- for some examples.DoneYourWay and lonewolf4ad Thank this. -
Yeah I never did a split but this time I could use those extra two hours to take care of some important things.
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Also you may want to check with your company. Some companies do not allow it.
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Yeah mine does I heard my manager talk about a driver who always takes splits
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You started strong then went SO wrong.
#1 - Yes the 8 suspends the 11/14. the 8 must be ALL sleeper though it can't be just off duty or your time will continue to run. So example: if you're on duty 1 hour + have driven 5 hours you take your 8 in the sleeper That means you have 6/8 remaining ( 6 driving/8 on duty)
#2 You then come to the end of your clock. you must spend 2 hours either off duty OR sleeper (or combination of the 2). At which point you will get the part of your time back you didn't use (aka the time you used before your 8 hour sleeper) Example: You've been on duty 1 + you drive 5 hours. You take your 8 hour sleeper. You then drive your 6. You go off duty for 2 hours. You now have 6 driving available/14 on duty (the 8+2=10 resets your 14).
#3 You will have to continue running split sleeper UNTIL you take a full 10 hour break.
If you're running e-logs it's extremely simple to follow it since the computer does keep up with all of your hours for you. However, I don't recommend running it alot because fatigue catches up with you alot faster. I've ran alot of split since I got on e-logs, partly due to load scheduling, and partly to make my life easier (avoid metropolitan areas during rush hour).
Key numbers to remember no matter what 8/2, 11/14.the gambler, Sublime, NewNashGuy and 1 other person Thank this. -
Just wanted to make sure, a lot of drivers don't understand it and end up with a violation. So some companies don't want the CSA points so the just don't allow it
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Great explanation Wolf
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On E-logs the SSB option is easy- before you use the SSB option always assume you don't have any more hours and need a ten hour break. Do eight in the sleeper, switch back to "Off duty" at the end of eight hours (not a second sooner) and the screen will tell you how many driving hours you have 'till you need a two hour break. If you try to predict how many hours are left between the eight and two hour breaks and you're tired, you'll get it wrong every time. When you finish your two hour break it's anybody's guess how many hours are left. Sometimes I pick up a whole 11 and 14, sometimes I hit the 70 hour ceiling and get cut short.
Before using the SSB option I note how many hours are left to work and drive on the screen. After an eight hour sleeper berth break they'll reappear. You can use them up- or only use part of them before taking the last two hours in the sleeper. But when you get out of the sleeper after your two hour break it's a crap shoot to guess how many hours are left to work because you're tired. The last thing you want to do after having a two hour nap is to figure out how submissive and compliant you've been. Luckily the EOBR and Uncle Slam will think for you and tell you how many hours you have left to work and drive until you have to repeat the Simple Simon game.lonewolf4ad Thanks this.
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