California emissions insanity...

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by totalnoob, May 24, 2015.

  1. totalnoob

    totalnoob Bobtail Member

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    Is it even legal to drive an older class 8 in california due to emissions laws? I was reading something that sounded like older vehicles wouldn't even be allowed in/through the state (even from out of state) either already in effect or going into effect in the next couple of years.

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    If i'm in the wrong subforum please move my topic, I see i'm under 'good and bad trucking companies' but thought I was just under a general questions from new drivers forum.
     
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    Reason for edit: i'm dumb
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  3. 8thnote

    8thnote Road Train Member

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    Currently CA requires you to have an '07 or newer vehicle with a factory installed DPF (diesel particulate filter) or if your vehicle is older, it must be retrofitted with a DPF. I don't run out west anymore, but I understand that enforcement is currently very sporadic. That's not to say that it could not be enforced anywhere with in the state at any time. If you're running a non CARB compliant truck, do so at your own risk.

    If my info is incorrect, some one who is more knowledgeable on the subject is sure to be along shortly.
     
  4. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    94-95 trucks are still legal as-is through December, but otherwise a dpf is required except for low-use operations. A legal challenge to the retrofit requirement was dismissed (w/o prejudice) in April and there is no other relief in sight on the legal horizon...

    I haven't encountered enforcement, but I have encountered shippers demanding compliant trucks. Still see plenty of old trucks on the road, but I'm noticing more and more with retrofit dpfs.
     
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  5. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Insanity. That's a good description for California. :)
     
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  6. Ken Worth

    Ken Worth Medium Load Member

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    Yeah, everybody stop going there.
     
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  7. rachi

    rachi Road Train Member

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    Yeah, I see lots of old trucks still running down the road in cali. On a side note, older out of state trucks can get a pass from carb to come into the state twice a year if im not mistaken. You would need to get hold of carb to get that "pass".
     
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  8. PackRatTDI

    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    It will eventually cost the produce industry when only the steering wheel holder companies are able to afford trucks and trailers that are California compliant and they can't run the way the produce industry wants.
     
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  9. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    I seem to recall there are a few companies that won't go to Berkeley.

    That's a start.
     
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  10. 315wheelbase

    315wheelbase Heavy Load Member

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    I spent 2 weeks in Feb helping a friend who does heavy haul in and around Los Angeles,.
    I was piloting his oversize loads in LA and I saw many older trucks some dating back to the 70's running all over southern Calif that did not have retrofitted DPF systems,,Big local fleets and out of state trucks were mostly CARB compliant .
    As for the ports there are many out of state trucks that drop their trailers out side the gates of shipping terminals where CARB compliance is checked to go in and out of the terminals and local CARB compliant trucks take their trailers to load or unload in the terminals.
    No or little enforcement in and around the ports as long as the truck does not go in the terminals,
     
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  11. jerezxp7

    jerezxp7 Medium Load Member

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    You will find that around the ports in LA the trucks are old pieces of sh-t I don't know how they pull it off I would not try running old equipment up and down the state . California is one of the worst places to drive truck and it's not because of the emissions laws. I am from California and I won't drive there any more in fact we.don't take our heavy haul trucks in California which is fine with me I would rather the chp send me a bill each year rather then put up with the ridiculous ways they find to steal my money.
     
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