CA CDL question

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by manny530, Aug 1, 2011.

  1. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Go to the link I gave you in the earlier post....there is a phone number there....give them a call they can give you the info....or go to the DMV and get the real answer!
     
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  3. manny530

    manny530 Bobtail Member

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    ok i will contact them thanks for the help deff dont wanna go to the dmv unless i have to that place is hell lol
     
  4. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    You can go to the West Sacramento Commercial DMV....take the Harbor Blvd exit (off 50/80), first street (on the North side of the over-crossing) take a right and they are on the left hand side about 200 yards down....just before and across from the International dealership.
     
  5. High Desert Dweller

    High Desert Dweller Medium Load Member

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    Pretty sure it's the trailer gross-

    'With a Commercial Class A License:

    Any legal combination of vehicles, including
    vehicles under Class B and Class C.


    And You May Tow…

    any single vehicle with a Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR) of more than 10,000 lbs.
    any trailer bus, with endorsement OR more than one vehicle, with endorsement.
    any vehicles under Classes B and C."



    http://dmv.ca.gov/pubs/comlhdbk/comlhdbk.pdf

    You have to parse the wording. It's the trailer gross, not the combination gross.

    Cali makes things harder to understand than it needs to be. :)
     
  6. pjw044

    pjw044 Heavy Load Member

    Any thing OVER 26,000 lbs GVW when pulling a combination
    (trailer) requires a CL A lic. If you drive test in an automatic
    truck, you will have a restriction of " Automatic Transmission"
    only on your Lic. If your truck has NO air brakes, it will also
    have a no air brake restriction on it...
     
  7. pjw044

    pjw044 Heavy Load Member

    A commercial vehicle is a motor vehicle or combination used for hire to transport passengers or property or which:

    • Has a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) of 26,001 pounds or more
    • Is designed, used, or maintained for carrying more than 10 passengers, including the driver
    • Tows a vehicle or trailer, which has a GVWR of 10,001 pounds or more
    • Transports hazardous materials, which requires placards
    • Tows any combination of two trailers or vehicle and trailer

    Copied from California DMV web site...
     
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Then why does CA require the registration of a standard pick-up truck to be registered and licensed as "COML"....commercial?

    I think you are meaning having a Class A license to operate. then what about the engines we use in the Fire Department....GVW 29,000. they can be operated with a non-commercial Class B.

    Gotta love California.....can't get a straight answer to a simple question like...."Is this line straight?"....(example, the letter "S")... DMV would say YES!:biggrin_2559:
     
  9. turnanburn

    turnanburn Medium Load Member

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    Vt regs are almost like the above from the left coast, but not quite. They state that vehicle/combo over 26k means CDL needed. If you are over 26k AND the towed unit exceeds 10k then a class A is needed. Cali seems to say if the trailer is over the 10 k a CDL is needed.

    Also, if you test with a tag trailer for the A cdl you will have a restriction (tag trailer only, no 5th wheel trailers)
     
  10. pjw044

    pjw044 Heavy Load Member

    Then why does CA require the registration of a standard pick-up truck to be registered and licensed as "COML"....commercial?

    I think you are meaning having a Class A license to operate. then what about the engines we use in the Fire Department....GVW 29,000. they can be operated with a non-commercial Class B.

    Gotta love California.....can't get a straight answer to a simple question like...."Is this line straight?"....(example, the letter "S")... DMV would say YES!:biggrin_2559:
    DMV is VERY flakey and does not enforce it own rules equally.
    Where i live in NORCAL fire fighters are required to have a CL B if the rig is over 26,001 and a firefighter endorsement. They pull NO trailers with there
    trucks, so its just like driving a BUS
     
  11. Shoestring

    Shoestring Light Load Member

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    Don't know about Cali, but here in Florida-Any single vehicle over 26k you need a class B (Fire department employees are exempt) If your trailer GVWR is over 10k and you are using it in a commercial enterprise (not for personal use) then you are required to have a Class A.

    So if you have a 1 ton truck with a 3 car wedge. The trailer is rated at say 11k and you are using it for business then u must have a valid class A license, even though your combined gross is under 26K.
     
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