Buying Used Truck Advice

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by Mmuzic12, Dec 22, 2020.

  1. Mmuzic12

    Mmuzic12 Bobtail Member

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    Hi everyone, I am new here and found this forum in my research process in becoming an owner operator. I feel like I have a good question in my search for buying a used truck. It seems to be the common advice to buy a used truck with around 400k-500k miles. I've notice most of these trucks range from $40k-$50k and up, and are in the 2012-2016 year range. Obviously this can vary significantly but this seems to be a fair range. It also seems like a lot of these trucks in this mileage range can have significant issues with the ERG/DPF systems since they were forced to rollout by government mandate and manufactures have had a lot of issues with these early generation models with these systems cause premature repairs like replacing a turbo at 300-400k instead of 600-700k for soot build up. This is just one example I have read about please feel free to add on or correct me if I am wrong. The 400-500k mileage range also seems to be a common range for fleets and other owners to "dump" off their trucks while they still have higher value and at the warranty expiration and/or at the point right before a lot of major repairs would likely need to be done. Because of all these variables I feel like there is a larger chance at buying a used truck in this 400k-500k mileage range for around $40k-$50k and having significant repair costs right away. I am considering buying a truck for much less (around $20k) with higher mileage (around 700-800k) that would more likely would have gone through more repairs and be mechanically updated instead of one with lower miles on the brink of mechanical failure or repair requirements. I would certainly expect a truck in the higher mileage range, or any used truck I am looking to buy, to be in need of some work. However, with my own due diligence I would like to be able to narrow it down to a very solid running truck (perhaps even from a private seller that took very good care of it) that would require much less maintenance and repair costs off the bat. I feel like this strategy could potentially save me thousands of my hard earned dollars. My goal is to run the truck about two years then upgrade to a newer one so I am anticipating putting about 200k-250k miles on it and certainly expect some unexpected repair needs. Then I plan on upgrading by selling/trading and buying newer, or possibly even keep and invest in rebuilding if I really like the truck. I know this is a lot but any advice would help, I am trying to take some time and research various buying options before I spend thousands of dollars and am hoping to find a truck to last me two years solid without major issues. Thanks ahead for anyone who takes time to reply to this!
     
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  3. MoeCharms

    MoeCharms Bobtail Member

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    Well when I bought my truck cash. It is a 2016 Freightliner sleeper with 287k miles. For 49k. I had it inspected by a freightliner mechanic and I paid around 3000 for the full inspection (he #### near took the whole truck apart). It was good to go. So my best tip is if you're gonna go that cheap go big with the inspection but even before that. Whatever truck you're interested in. Google that truck and engine. See what are the common issues, life expectancy, etc. Based on what you see. Look for records or receipts to see that this stuff was getting replaced around the time it was predicted to die in that truck.
     
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  4. OldeSkool

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    If you buy an older high mileage truck either buy a pre emission, glider or go on TruckPaper and find one that the emissions has stopped working on.
     
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  5. Mmuzic12

    Mmuzic12 Bobtail Member

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    I will look into that thanks for the feedback!
     
  6. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    Hopefully, you have been a company driver first. I have read a lot of questions from people on TRR who want to be a O/O and they don't even have their CDL yet. Even when you start as an O/O after being a company driver, there is so much to learn. First consider several things.... are you going to be an O/O leased to a carrier? Or an independent, an O/O with their own authority. Some carriers have age requirements for trucks to be leased on. If you are going to have your own authority or the truck age does not matter. Then I would recommend an ELD exempt truck. 1999 or older or a 2000 and up with a 1999 or older engine. Then you could run paper logs, and would not have to worry about any emissions components. I would look for a well taken care of truck thats being sold because of retirement or someone getting out of trucking. Good luck!
     
  7. Trucking in Tennessee

    Trucking in Tennessee Road Train Member

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    The other side of the coin is when a truck is reaching the end of its life cycle only the bare minimums are done to keep it rolling. Unless it is a safety problem it won't get fixed.
     
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  8. Mmuzic12

    Mmuzic12 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks for taking the time to give your feedback. I actually have my CDL and have been driving with a family member who has there own company for about 4 months. I know this is a short period and most suggest to take extra time to hire into a large carrier, go through their training program, make rookie mistakes in a safer environment, etc. I certainly respect and understand this approach and still am considering it as I haven't pulled the trigger on the O/O route yet. I would probably be an O/O under the family company or look for a carrier like JB Hunt who only requires 3 months experience for O/O's. I actually plan on opening my own LLC and getting my DOT and MC for the long term. To be honest this has been a career change for me due to the pandemic and I have been a company driver for over 10 years, although not CDL I am used to being on the road. I have a technology and management degree and understand the business side and risks associated which is why I am taking this very seriously and doing thorough research and reaching out for feedback from experienced professionals. Those older trucks are certainly an option to be exempt from a lot of the modern changes and headaches in the industry but I think thats may be a better long term option where I could take my time and find a good one or rebuild it the way I want. Thanks for your feedback!
     
  9. Mmuzic12

    Mmuzic12 Bobtail Member

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    Thanks thats a really good point to keep in mind!
     
  10. bad-luck

    bad-luck Road Train Member

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    Your welcome. You can make a good living as an owner operator. The down side is, a LOT of hard work. If your not driving it, your working on it. Good luck!
     
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  11. The Crossword Trucker

    The Crossword Trucker Road Train Member

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    If you are going to be an o/o that green, the only way I would suggest it is if you stick with your family and know they are willing to really take care of you in terms of helping you make the day to day decisions. JB Hunt is not going to do that for you
     
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